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re: What is your opinion on the gentrification of N.O.?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:17 am to H.M. Murdock
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:17 am to H.M. Murdock
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Wont matter as much as the .gov is providing these folks with housing and the property owners with a guaranteed monthly check.
I lived in a double on Panola St. My next door neighbor was a section 8er. I paid $1000/mo. I'm guessing the landlord probably got 2/3 of that for the other side with the section 8er. The landlord eventually ran the section 8er out and then rented it out to a couple for $1200/mo. When I moved out they jacked the rate up to $1300 for my side.
Landlords who rent Section 8 will gladly lose their Section 8 tenants for a higher income.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 8:18 am
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:19 am to tide06
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Agreed, keep in mind that in a natural state you would have an affluent center with pockets of outstanding suburbs surrounded by lower wage living areas.
While this may be true in many cities, New Orleans is a bit different.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:20 am to 504ByrdGang
Whatever gets the bad eggs farther away from me when I'm there, I'm all for it.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:22 am to BottomlandBrew
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Landlords who rent Section 8 will gladly lose their Section 8 tenants for a higher income
I agree, but we have to understand that many of the section 8'ers believe its "their hood, their house," etc.. Pushing them out will be very tough it not impossible.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:30 am to H.M. Murdock
I'm all for making a place nicer to live, but it's the type of people that are gentrifying New Orleans that I have a problem with. I don't want New Orleans to be a mini-Austin, or a mini-Portland, or a mini-Manhattan, and it's somehow managing to become a combination of all three (within the confines of its food, architecture, and history, of course).
Just yesterday I saw someone from Austin post on Facebook that "I want to move to New Orleans" and there was a long thread below featuring many of her Austin-ite friends echoing her sentiments (in addition to some that had already moved from Austin saying "New Orleans is nothing like Austin, baby, yuurrrrrrrd?" Before the storm there were some transplants, but not like today. I feel like now New Orleans is attracting so many of the garden-variety hipster/yupster millennial generation (along with some new age older types) that it threatens to dilute many of the things that make it unique and become just another "hot" city.
Plus, the rent is insane.
Flame away if you want, but that's my opinion. I actually just moved out very recently.
Just yesterday I saw someone from Austin post on Facebook that "I want to move to New Orleans" and there was a long thread below featuring many of her Austin-ite friends echoing her sentiments (in addition to some that had already moved from Austin saying "New Orleans is nothing like Austin, baby, yuurrrrrrrd?" Before the storm there were some transplants, but not like today. I feel like now New Orleans is attracting so many of the garden-variety hipster/yupster millennial generation (along with some new age older types) that it threatens to dilute many of the things that make it unique and become just another "hot" city.
Plus, the rent is insane.
Flame away if you want, but that's my opinion. I actually just moved out very recently.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:38 am to Breesus
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And these stupid fricking hipster dipshits in this city right now, who are moving here from I assume Seattle, protesting the city park golf course and actively protesting the rebuilding and renewing these great old new Orleans neighborhoods, going so far as to vandalize property when it is built, need to take their gauges and tattoos and artisan coffee and go back to the north.
I thought it was the transplanting hipsters that were gentrifying the Bywater and St. Roch areas.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:51 am to Breesus
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these stupid fricking hipster dipshits in this city right now, who are moving here from I assume Seattle, protesting the city park golf course and actively protesting the rebuilding and renewing these great old new Orleans neighborhoods, going so far as to vandalize property when it is built, need to take their gauges and tattoos and artisan coffee and go back to the north.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:52 am to Breesus
Always gotta have a New Orleans bona fides dick measuring contest.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 8:56 am to 504ByrdGang
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What is your opinion on the gentrification of N.O.?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:03 am to H.M. Murdock
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I agree, but we have to understand that many of the section 8'ers believe its "their hood, their house," etc.. Pushing them out will be very tough it not impossible.
ill admit to recently purchasing on a block that had some sec8 -- and as its gotten better, the evictions have been happening.
the feedback ive gotten as the guy that moved to the block and has reported blight, stayed on the city about sanitation etc... has been extremely positive from everyone that actually wants to be there and be part of a community.
the folks that have gotten booted from their houses have been the people that caused trouble for everyone else anyway, so the long term residents are thrilled the blocks improving.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:06 am to chillygentilly
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It's hard for me to drive down the Freret corridor and say "This is a bad thing."
This is how I feel about it. These renovations are not bad for the city. Some (if not all) of the areas being renovated are absolute dumps. Ideally the displaced workers will move to the suburbs that the gentrifiers (is that a word?) are moving from. I believe things are always heading toward an equilibrium in the long run.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:11 am to yellowhammer2098
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Ideally the displaced workers will move to the suburbs that the gentrifiers (is that a word?) are moving from. I believe things are always heading toward an equilibrium in the long run.
What I've seen happen in other places is that it is the 20-somethings - i.e. "young professionals" - that really drive this process. They buy into the cheaper places in the city because they want to be "in the city" but can't afford a whole lot. As more and more young professionals flock to an area, newer bars, restaurants, and coffee places open up there because that tends to be their target demographic. Once those businesses are established, people with money want to be near them, and that's what causes the rise in real estate prices.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:12 am to yellowhammer2098
The only people seriously opposed to gentrification are the same morons who want to raze the I-10 through the city
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:13 am to LNCHBOX
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You generally come across as a decent guy on here
You're talking about Breesus?
That one caught me off guard as well.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:17 am to Breesus
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That one caught me off guard as well.
Fine, I'll rephrase:
You're not obnoxious enough to be on my radar. But you're getting there in this thread.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:17 am to AbitaFan08
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What I've seen happen in other places is that it is the 20-somethings - i.e. "young professionals" - that really drive this process.
I'm currently one of these 20-something "young professionals" that is driving the gentrification of downtown Birmingham. I definitely don't feel bad about it. The people being displaced will find some decent housing out in the suburbs that is infinitely nicer than the pre-renovation filth they were living in before.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:17 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'm just pointing out a real side effect. Displaced workers is a legit counter argument to gentrification.
It's not a good counter argument.
You're saying never touching a distressed and poor area because some people might get displaced is a good reason to leave poverty stricken and run down neighborhoods alone.
That's not a good argument.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:20 am to KG6
Push dem fakers over the levee ......
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:20 am to Jake88
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thought it was the transplanting hipsters that were gentrifying the Bywater and St. Roch areas.
they move into poverty stricken areas because they think it's trendy and cool and then they fight like hell to keep them poor and shitty because working 4 hours twice a week at a boutique coffee shop doesn't pay the bills.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:21 am to Breesus
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You're saying never touching a distressed and poor area because some people might get displaced is a good reason to leave poverty stricken and run down neighborhoods alone.
I don't think that's what he's saying at all.
He's just pointing out that it's not just the government handout people that will have to move, it will be the service industry folks, blue collar workers, etc.
He never said it was a bad thing. He just said it was a thing.
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