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re: What is the long term benefit of these data centers?

Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Jevons Paradox suggests that when technological advancements increase the efficiency of a resource (in this case, computational power for AI training and inference), the demand for that resource may paradoxically increase rather than decrease, as lower costs drive greater adoption and usage. This was noted in analyses suggesting that DeepSeek’s efficiency breakthroughs could lead to skyrocketing demand for AI applications, potentially offsetting the reduced need for compute per model and sustaining or even increasing investments in AI infrastructure.
Cool.

It proliferates - it becomes cheaper - it proliferates - …

Like I asked earlier, does that ultimately result in a crash?
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9736 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:36 pm to
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What does society gain from these massive data centers?

Why are we pouring so much time, energy, and money into building these massive structures?

Scruffy would like to know.


We are in the middle of a great tech reset. The same way I haven't Yahoo'd anything in decades. Don't use the Lycos retriever. Don't check up on my friends on Myspace. Haven't gotten any music from Napster lately. Within the next year I don't think anyone with Google anything either.

All of the big boys have watched in the past that there usually is only one big winner in the information space. And we are watching the most expensive race ever.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
23741 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:37 pm to
You seem kinda tarded for a “doctor”
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42740 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:38 pm to
Because we don’t have Sophons yet
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:39 pm to
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You seem kinda tarded for a “doctor”


Because I don’t know the ins and outs of the data center boom?

I can live with that.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Who are they receiving their funds from?

In addition to the tech giants, anyone can rent a gpu to run some data for their business. My fellow Money Talk investor shared his story just a couple of days ago after he rented an Nvidia H200 via the Nebius AI Cloud.

Use cases are almost limitless. Here's another:

quote:

Marey is Moonvalley’s foundational AI model, built to meet the standards of world-class cinematography. Designed for filmmakers who demand precision in every frame, it delivers the control, consistency, and fidelity to bring your vision to life.


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Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1826 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
Sandwiches are solid, as are burgers. Can't yet speak to the chicken.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38371 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
This is where your consciousness will go.


Eventually.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6259 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Rayville Cafe

FYI, that's pronounced Ray-vul. I learned that while passing through once upon a time.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39799 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:01 pm to
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FYI, that's pronounced Ray-vul




Thanks man. I wasn't sure how it was pronounced.






Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12146 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
Laying the groundwork for eventual pod farms.
Posted by LSUCyberGirl
Member since Feb 2021
58 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:31 pm to
water is used in DC for inline cooling to keep the server room cool. The equipment puts out a lot of heat and have to be kept cool.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135035 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

What is the long term benefit of these data centers?


So you can review your Facebook friends dinners for the last 10 years
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:37 pm to
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The equipment puts out a lot of heat and have to be kept cool.

quote:

our facility features a waste heat recovery system, which repurposes server heat to warm residential buildings in the nearby town of Mäntsälä. Implemented between 2015 and 2016, this project positions us as one of the first in the region to deploy such technology.


LINK
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3424 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:49 pm to
To prevent the next Trump from
Ever getting traction.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9490 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:04 pm to
Man, after getting a firsthand view of what AI can do with construction estimating, there's going to be a bunch of companies that invest in cloud based and AI computing capabilities to improve productivity in all industries. That might put some people out of a job, but that's where everything is heading. Better learn a trade my whitecollared brethren.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted by speedybaw
Member since Apr 2025
358 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:27 pm to
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SallysHuman is pleased to see Scruffy reverting to third person... seems like Scruffy stopped doing that for a little while, but SallysHuman always liked it.

The quang of cringe.
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1696 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:43 pm to
Influx of Pakistanis and Indians.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:46 pm to
Eventually coordinate and control society. Most real "work" will occur in data centers. We will be gig workers.

Posted by BatonProv
Member since Dec 2023
444 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:50 pm to
So you can skip Wikipedia just get the answer fast
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