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re: What is the best city to live in after graduation?

Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:58 am to
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Coming from LA, I wouldn't move to NYC unless you lined up an OT baller job at a big firm making $100k+ right out of school. Anything less and you're lower middle class. Not only that but you'll get taxed out the wazoo no matter what income you have in NYC. NYC actually has it's own income tax. Between the wife and I we are paying close to $300/month just in NYC personal income tax. Also forget about buying property- most reasonable condos/houses start at 400k, and have property taxes that start around 10k/year. The math doesn't add up.


Yeah, for a new graduate it's probably a fun place to be, but you'd essentially leave there with nothing but experience.

Go somewhere like Dallas and reap the benefits of low cost of living and actually have something to bank on if/when you decide to move.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25716 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:00 am to
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The rest of the city is a mess of nice neighborhoods placed right on top of ghettos.


Such as? Southside/St. Elmo is only one I could really think of that would be "right on top of ghettos."

Red Bank, East Ridge, and Hixson have nice parts, and have a good mix of middle class living as well.

All of the mountains for most part are nice neighborhoods.

Lookout Valley/Tiftonia is similar to the other suburbs, but has some very nice neighborhoods (Cummings Cove/Black Creek).

I guess you could say some of the Northshore is near a "ghetto-like area", but really that whole area has been populated by young professionals and newly married couples.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40355 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:01 am to
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. Between the wife and I we are paying close to $300/month just in NYC personal income tax
holy shite, that blows. Good thing ya'll just elected a libertarian mayor...............
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:04 am to
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libertarian mayor..


I can't imagine our taxes going down under him anytime soon.

Actually our lease is up in June for a place to be determined.... outside of NYC.

It's been fun, but as said above, we're leaving with a little bit of money and a lot more experience.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40355 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:06 am to
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It's been fun, but as said above, we leaving with a little bit of money and a lot more experience.

vote with your feet
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16740 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:06 am to
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Been a Chattanoogan all my life, and there have been plenty of mainstays downtown.

The only one I can think of that is constanstly something different is Rio Picante/Tortilla Factory/Some burger bar across from the aquarium.


My office is in downtown Chattanooga. There are mainstains, but a lot of the restaurants down here change often. I still miss Market Street Tavern burgers, pity Aaron fricked that one up.

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You're missing some great fishing on the Hiwassee. Trophy trout section with great fishing holes. My dad brings in a great haul of trout every weekend.


I don't miss it, I fish there often. Benefits of working out there some. Fishing for brookies in the Smokies is more fun than dumb farm rainbows any day of the week though. Hiwassee and Ocoee are far from the best fishing in this area. Cherokee Trophy and float trips down the Holston are some I would rather do.

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And it's just beautiful. I find it much more beautiful than Knoxville


The downtown area? They are really about the same to me. You got the Aquarium here, UT fun in Knoxville. Surrounding areas, Knoxville wins easy thanks to the Smokies.




Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:09 am to
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I still miss Market Street Tavern burgers


me too
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16740 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:10 am to
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Red Bank, East Ridge, and Hixson have nice parts


These are perfect examples. Have you looked at homes in the area as an outsider? I have, I just got done doing a massive where to build a home and actually building it project 2 years ago. For a young professional, your options are severely limited in these areas to neighborhoods that are completely surrounded by low income housing and shitty areas. It's shite planning.

If you are already established and can afford the nicer areas, those aren't so bad, but for a young kid who probably isn't going to be looking at a 350k+ home. Probably not.. Below 300k+ developments just aren't laid out well in this city.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:14 am to
you could always move out further up 27 and build on 5 ac. or something like that.

we talked about doing that, but we decided that it makes more sense for us to just move after we hit our 3 year mark
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:15 am to
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Below 300k+ developments just aren't laid out well in this city.


yeah, i hate this in the northshore area where you can reach out your bedroom window and touch your neighbors house. those places are built on top of each other.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25716 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:16 am to
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Probably not.. Below 300k+ developments just aren't laid out well in this city.


Lookout Valley. Some really nice new housing.

I wouldn't call the lower income areas of Red Bank, Hixon, and East Ridge "shitty". But that's just me. There are lower income areas in every city. And there are nicer areas next to those lower income areas in every city.

Most of my friends have bought on the Northshore or North Chattanooga/Hixson area. And love it.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25716 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:17 am to
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yeah, i hate this in the northshore area where you can reach out your bedroom window and touch your neighbors house. those places are built on top of each other.


I can see that, but there are plenty of areas with more space that are being developed. And not a bad drive to downtown.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16740 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:19 am to
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you could always move out further up 27 and build on 5 ac. or something like that.

we talked about doing that, but we decided that it makes more sense for us to just move after we hit our 3 year mark (both the g/f and i work for "the family")


Yeah I wanted to do that, I definitely want to eventually get a big piece of property not in a subdivision, but couldn't find anything at the time we both liked and the clock was running on moving benefits. So we picked somewhere we thought would be an easy resell.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:21 am to
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How can a city that is almost completely fueled by tourism be an ideal place for young professionals?



Are you joking? This isn't 2004 chief. N.O. is booming with an influx of young professionals. Check out the real estate markets.
They can't build enough condos and apartments downtown to keep up with demand.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:21 am to
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What is the best city to live in after graduation?


The one that lands you the best job
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12646 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:35 am to
This may seem like a troll attempt, but it isn't.

Check out St. Louis. Cheap, good food, good beer, and lots of young people in certain areas of the city. It does get cold, but the winters are far from harsh (except this year when winter was harsh everywhere).

As for Houston, people poopooing it based on a visit here are fricking stupid. Houston is not a touristy city. It doesn't have a French Quarter, it doesn't have a Times Square. It is a relatively affordable place to live and make a bunch of money while being a major metro area where you can literally find almost anything you want.

Want to play polo? They have a club for that. Want to listen to live music? Plenty of places offer that nightly and world famous acts make their way to the Woodlands Pavilion and Reliant Center. Want a hole in the wall bar? Everywhere. Want to have a relaxing day away from the office? Tons of parks and outdoor patios. O, and you can watch an NFL game, MLB game, NBA game, and MLS game in person. There are few things that you can do in New Orleans or any other city for that matter that you cannot do in Houston, at least as far as things that you would want to do on a semi-regular basis.

Problem is that it is more than warm. Like New Orleans and much of the deep south, Summers in Houston are hellish.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:44 am to
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LoveThatMoney
What is the best city to live in after graduation?
This may seem like a troll attempt, but it isn't.

Check out St. Louis. Cheap, good food, good beer, and lots of young people in certain areas of the city. It does get cold, but the winters are far from harsh (except this year when winter was harsh everywhere).

As for Houston, people poopooing it based on a visit here are fricking stupid. Houston is not a touristy city. It doesn't have a French Quarter, it doesn't have a Times Square. It is a relatively affordable place to live and make a bunch of money while being a major metro area where you can literally find almost anything you want.

Want to play polo? They have a club for that. Want to listen to live music? Plenty of places offer that nightly and world famous acts make their way to the Woodlands Pavilion and Reliant Center. Want a hole in the wall bar? Everywhere. Want to have a relaxing day away from the office? Tons of parks and outdoor patios. O, and you can watch an NFL game, MLB game, NBA game, and MLS game in person. There are few things that you can do in New Orleans or any other city for that matter that you cannot do in Houston, at least as far as things that you would want to do on a semi-regular basis.

Problem is that it is more than warm. Like New Orleans and much of the deep south, Summers in Houston are hellish.


lived here for 20 years ... very accurate statements ... though living inside the loop is getting to be very, very pricey ...
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12646 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:27 pm to
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though living inside the loop is getting to be very, very pricey .


Tell me about it. I just finished building a house in Oak Forest. I feel like I've been bled dry. And Oak Forest isn't even (technically) inside the loop.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 12:47 pm to
I moved to San Francisco after LSU and it was great. Do it while you're used to being poor. I brought a girlfriend out there with me which I'm sure helped matters a great deal, though it was expensive as shite to find housing that met her expectations. That and I brought my dog out there with us. That was a serious, and expensive, complication. I'm not the type of guy to give a dog away though, I took on the responsibility and so be it.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2329 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Is Houston really a good city to live in though? How are the people?


Houston is very liveable - just live within 5 miles of your office and getaway for a week or two in July/August. Austin is more scenic and does have less humidity, mosquitoes and crime.

I have found Houston, along with Denver, to be the friendliest big cities in the US.
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