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What if after WW2 we decided to annex Western Europe

Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by GermantownTiger
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:01 pm
As the Russians did in the East. Would we still control the area?
Posted by GermantownTiger
Member since Jan 2015
3337 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:02 pm to
Bonus. The French would have been turned into real men
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
4387 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:02 pm to
What if I decided to have the whole box of Fruit Loops with marshmallows instead of just 2 bowls?

What if...
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:03 pm to
I don't even wanna think about all the extra bull shite we'd have to deal with. Y'all bitch about immigrants now? Imagine trying to fold all of western Europe into the American way of life. Hard pass.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
26122 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:03 pm to
It's Froot Loops, you Mandela junkie.
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2132 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:04 pm to
No. Too many nationalistic factions owned by a country that would theoretically want to support western democracy.
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12555 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:06 pm to
We'd become like the Nazi's

quote:

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian

-Harvey Dent

-Michael Scott
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

As the Russians did in the East. Would we still control the area?



The Soviet Union didn't annex all of Eastern Europe. They only annexed the Balkans and parts of the caucaus

They set up puppet governments much like we did for much of europe

This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45428 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:17 pm to
We kinda did. We set up bases throughout for stability, and have mined their economy. We just allow them to self govern.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8973 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:18 pm to
I just read a great book on the Berlin airlift that provides a solid back background to the USSR's expansion.

The USSR had been planning for a push west (all the way through France and Italy) before the war began. Lots of clandestine, and not so clandestine support of Communist parties in each country, fabricated agitation against existing government etc. The political structures were so well developed that once the USSR occupied eastern Europe setting up the puppet government was a breeze. That was their intent in Berlin to force out the Rueter led mayorship.

Annexation is not the right word for what we did in western Europe, but if we had wanted to repel the Soviets it would have been bad..

Back home the US populace was extremely war weary, Truman struggled to get a commitment to even fund parts of reconstruction in Europe for fear of angering the Soviets. If the US decided Europe needed a little Manifest Destiny, they would have gone head to head with an entrenched, veteran Soviet Army content to win by a war of attrition. Britain was broke, France was France, and Germany still needed to be occupied lest guerrilla forces take up arms (a very real concern in 1945-48).

The only way to beat the Soviets would have been to nuke them into oblivion, which in turn would eliminate America's "moral mandate" to establish governments throughout Europe, forcing us to govern the place by force.

To annex

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38567 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:22 pm to
Who said we didn't? We still have a major military presence in Germany, Italy and Great Britain.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135045 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Y'all bitch about immigrants now? Imagine trying to fold all of western Europe into the American way of life


European peoples tend to assimilate into American society Easier because they are already from western societies
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39656 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:51 pm to
They’d all vote Democrat and the Muslim flood would be sweeping over the 48 states now
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21043 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:09 pm to
If the government had listened to Patton instead of assassinate him we would all be better off.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43086 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

We still have a major military presence


We still have a major military presence in Cuba, so did we annex Cuba too?

Having a base somewhere is not the same as annexing a country.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:31 pm to
Should have dropped a nuke on Moscow while we had the upper hand with the bomb.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74667 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

As the Russians did in the East. Would we still control the area?


Well they had the Warsaw Pact and we had NATO.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3683 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Y'all bitch about immigrants now?


Well, there was already a wall in Berlin at least.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38567 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:42 pm to
We occupied Great Britain with our bombers about 10,000 personnel, Germany with our bombers and army about 35,000 right now. Italy about 13,000 air force and naval.

In Cuba we have about 800

If you want to speak of real occupation, look at Japan we still have 45,000 stationed there mostly in Okinawa, but we have a sizeable amount at Yokahama
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:49 pm to
It would’ve ended in a worse war than WWII, that is if we didn’t blow multiple Soviet cities off the face of the earth. Which, we would’ve done, our morals be damned and the world probably is a better place for it. Probably would’ve gotten in a war with China as well.
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