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re: What happens with the engagement ring after a divorce?

Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19995 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:49 pm to
If you get married, it’s hers. If she breaks it off before the wedding, she should probably give it back.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48869 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:49 pm to
Lol diamond engagement rings are a relatively new invention of Jewish diamond cartels, and women are stupid

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This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:53 pm to
She sells it and buys something nice for her new boyfriend.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113916 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:04 pm to
Pawn it?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:05 pm to
Gets turned to cash to pay for a tit job
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:06 pm to
RIP
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Well, according to Louisiana law, as long as the ring is less than a certain amount in value (it's pretty high), it's not counted as part of the community property in the divorce and the wife keeps it. If it is over that value, it's value in excess of that amount is considered part of the community property that must be partitioned.


How is something ever considered community property if it is owned by someone prior to the marriage? The ring was given to her prior to the marriage. She owns it before the marriage and brings it Into the marriage as her own property. Seems like it's hers regardless of the value. Is there a statute covering this issue with it being community property of over a certain value? That's interesting, and very concerning, to me.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65550 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:15 pm to
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It’s the wife’s to do with as she wishes.
In case you’re not following along at home, she’s no longer a “wife”....
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:17 pm to
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quote: It’s the wife’s to do with as she wishes. In case you’re not following along at home, she’s no longer a “wife”....


It was hers before she was a wife.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67028 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:38 pm to
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How is something ever considered community property if it is owned by someone prior to the marriage? The ring was given to her prior to the marriage. She owns it before the marriage and brings it Into the marriage as her own property. Seems like it's hers regardless of the value. Is there a statute covering this issue with it being communicate property of over a certain value? That's interesting, and very concerning, to me.


Basically, it's because an engagement ring is not considered a simple "donation" or "gift", but a conditional gift, and thus treated more like collateral for an obligation. An engagement is treated like an obligation to perform a certain act within a reasonable amount of time (i.e. get married). The engagement ring is collateral to ensure that promise is carried out. If the man breaks his promise, he just shelled out all of that money on a ring which she keeps. If she backs out, she has to give that ring back.

Since ownership of the ring is conditional on the obligation being completed, ownership of the ring does not technically go from the man to his fiance until the wedding ceremony is completed and the two are wed. Because it is therefor not property of the spouse until after marriage, it is eligible for being considered as part of the community property.

However, statutorily, it is exempt, much like clothing and a lot of other personal effects, as long as it is below a certain value. If you're a normal person, the ring will stay with the spouse. If the engagement ring just so happens to have the hope diamond on it, it's going to be considered part of the community property. Just like regular silverware won't be counted, but sterling silver might be.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:43 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62741 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:41 pm to
I'd be less worried about the engagement ring compared to the $thousands spent on clothes and shoes over the years.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:42 am to
This is why I always laugh when people say the ring is an investment of proud that they’ll be able to get good resale value on it. Once you give it to her, you’re never see that money again unless you are selling your deceased wife’s ring you POS
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22892 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 3:09 am to
Things ended somewhat cordially so we agreed to give rings back to each other.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78951 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:05 am to
Recycle it to the next skank. Sharing is caring bro
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:14 am to
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You have to pay the gift tax to the IRS or go to jail.


That's one hell of an expensive ring.

From LINK

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if you gift an amount that’s above the annual gift tax exclusion, you can also tap into the lifetime estate and gift tax exemption. The lifetime exemption effectively shelters from tax $5 million, indexed for inflation. The inflation-indexed amount for 2017 is $5.49 million per donor. It increases to $5.6 million for 2018.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11216 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:24 am to
I kept mine. But he never proposed with a ring, so the one I had was purchased & paid for together. Not sentimental or a gift from him.

Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13307 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:47 am to
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It’s hers.


She sells it to buy sex toys or to support the guy she's been fricking while still married.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 8:15 am
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32490 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:50 am to
What if it's passed down from your grandmother or something?
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24347 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:03 am to
Typically held for ransom.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11216 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:25 am to
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What if it's passed down from your grandmother or something?


It would be so shitty of her to keep it in that case. I know it happens and women go nuts, but damn.
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