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re: What exactly is an "assault" rifle?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:26 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:26 am to Darth_Vader
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Technically you’re correct. But good luck doing it.
yep, don't keep up with the rules on that but doesn't(didn't) it require a certain level of an arms dealer license(class 3?)
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:26 am to Ace Midnight
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Strangely appropriate for the OT, the German army fielded a late war rifle that combined features of a rifle and a submachine gun, the Stg 44, Sturmgewehr, or "assault rifle" (or, I suppose, more literally "storm gun").
After seeing a demonstration of the StG.44, it was Adolf Hitler himself who gave it the name “strumgewehr” which translates to Assault Rifle.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:40 am to 777Tiger
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yep, don't keep up with the rules on that but doesn't(didn't) it require a certain level of an arms dealer license(class 3?)
If I’m not mistaken, for you to legally own, possess, or buy a fully automatic firearm of any type you have to have a federal license and jump through all sorts of hoops...
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It takes a lot to get your hands on one of these guns.
“These weapons entail the necessity for a background check,” said David Nielsen, an attorney specializing in firearms issues and president of the IAWCA. “[The] FBI looks at you, you have to send in fingerprints and photographs, and you do a transfer tax along with each weapon transaction costing $200.”
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In other words, unlike most guns, you can’t just show up at Walmart and take one home. It can take close to a year to get approved to purchase each machine gun. Plus, because it has been illegal for civilians to buy new machine guns since 1986, only used guns are available on the market. That means it’s not only a lengthy process but an expensive one. “If you want a cheap hobby — I don’t know — stay at home,” Pingree said. Pingree’s not kidding. A single machine gun often runs into the tens of thousands of dollars and that’s before purchasing ammunition for the gun. That can run as high as $5 per round.
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So to get one you have to go through a background check, FBI investigation into every aspect of your life, and submit photo ID and fingerprints. Plus you’ll probably need a lawyer who specializes in firearms permits to guide you through the process. Then after all that process, which can take months, It will cost you tens of thousands of dollars for the weapon and you’ll be paying up to $5 per round of ammo. Now considering automatic weapons have a rate of fire that’s measured in hundreds of rounds per minute, it’s pretty easy to see that not just anyone is going to be able to get their hands on a machine gun and actually use it.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:50 am to Darth_Vader
You are blowing this way out of proportion. The biggest hurdle to buying a transferable full auto is the price of the firearm.
This is very deceiving. They have .223/5.56 and 9mm transferable full autos you can buy. The rounds for those surely don't cost $5 per round. It's not like full autos only take a certain round that cost $5 per round.
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That can run as high as $5 per round.
This is very deceiving. They have .223/5.56 and 9mm transferable full autos you can buy. The rounds for those surely don't cost $5 per round. It's not like full autos only take a certain round that cost $5 per round.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:58 am to The Mick
An actual assault rifle must be capable of select fire. However, here's the Democrat/liberal/gun troll definition.
If it has at least 3 of the following features:
bayonet lug
collapsing or folding stock
detachable magazine
flash hider or threaded barrel
grenade launcher mount cutout on barrel
pistol grip
If it has at least 3 of the following features:
bayonet lug
collapsing or folding stock
detachable magazine
flash hider or threaded barrel
grenade launcher mount cutout on barrel
pistol grip
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:03 am to Darth_Vader
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you’ll be paying up to $5 per round of ammo
You know better than this.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:13 am to Darth_Vader
No, I am actually correct. There's no technicality in there
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:14 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You know better than this.
He probably doesn't.
The OP, and the majority of responses to it, are confusing two distinct terms. "Assault rifle" has a clear technical definition, "assault weapon" is a political term that has no clear definition and includes pistols, rifles, and shotguns. If you look at the statements made by long time gun-control advocates, they are careful to use the latter term because they want the legislation they are agitating for to impact a broad selection of firearms. If they passed a law that only stated "assault rifles", then they would be limiting the scope only to a narrow class of already tightly regulated firearms. That's the reason that more recent federally proposed Assault Weapons Ban laws have included by-name lists of firearms deemed acceprable by the loony morons that sign on as supoorters.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:17 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Those full auto 5.56 rounds are expensive, and you can't get them at regular stores. I hear the dark web has them on sale for like $4.75/rd every now and again
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:25 am to Hammertime
the ack ground check is just like any NFA item. i have gone through a few of them. But i think with full auto you have the stamp at 200 then a transfer fee of 5k. then the price of the gun.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:27 am to The Mick
I think there is a huge disconnect being civilian and military terminology. Politicians aren't especially well qualified to name things (outside of their pre-political career experience) in general. Politicians who are constantly fighting each other are also pretty bad at naming things.
Assault is a use-case descriptor as is Hunting and Battle.
Terms like "semi-automatic" or "bolt-action" refer to how they operate; while "rifle", "carbine" and "pistol" are implementation-form names.
There are terms I've seen applied to pistol-sized weapons which offer higher rates of fire: "submachine-guns" and "machine-pistols", e.g.: MAC10 and UZI.
Small-arms have other technical descriptors used to differentiate them. An important thing to note is: these are not necessarily mutually exclusive categories.
Assault is a use-case descriptor as is Hunting and Battle.
Terms like "semi-automatic" or "bolt-action" refer to how they operate; while "rifle", "carbine" and "pistol" are implementation-form names.
There are terms I've seen applied to pistol-sized weapons which offer higher rates of fire: "submachine-guns" and "machine-pistols", e.g.: MAC10 and UZI.
Small-arms have other technical descriptors used to differentiate them. An important thing to note is: these are not necessarily mutually exclusive categories.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:31 am to Martini
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Well correct and I should clarify as already pointed out, made before 1986 and the usual laundry list of restrictions.
That laundry list are pretty much the same restrictions for gun ownership...
To own a full auto, you just have to fill out some paperwork, wait a long time and pay a lot of money
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:34 am to Gabriel Susan Lewis
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They are kind of like pitbulls. only total cocksuckers own them and they should absolutely be illegal
They’re very effective at taking down multiple wild boars when you come upon a heard of them. Feral hogs have run amok across much of the country.
What other weapon would you recommend?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:37 am to GusMcRae
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They’re very effective at taking down multiple wild boars when you come upon a heard of them. Feral hogs have run amok across much of the country.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:45 am to Gabriel Susan Lewis
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They are kind of like pitbulls. only total cocksuckers own them and they should absolutely be illegal
Yeah, but pit bulls are still legal, so I have to protect myself from them. AR's are very effective at doing so
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:51 am to Redbone
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"An assault is the act of inflicting physical harm or unwanted physical contact upon a person..."
EVERY rifle including my black powder .50 caliber fits under this definition.
ALL pistols too.
It is also a name for a military raid/action on a target.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:52 am to Korin
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If it has at least 3 of the following features:
Don't forget that menacing barrel shroud!
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:54 am to upgrayedd
Of course you can't leave out the "shoulder thingy that goes up".
Posted on 6/17/19 at 10:56 am to civiltiger07
Tucker has some great moments
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:00 pm to Clames
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He probably doesn't.
Go frick yourself, dumbass. I’ve literally spelled out not only the factual definition of an assault rifle on here, I’ve even detailed the history and development of assault rifles. I’ve even laid out the differences between assault rifles and other styles of rifles.
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