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re: What exactly is a plant “operator”?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:15 pm to heatom2
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:15 pm to heatom2
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We don't admit it because out isn't true for non union plants.
It's 1.5 plus auto call in hours(usually 4) even if you don't work but make your way toward facility. If not, you been getting fricked.
Now how bout telling people when you work 48 hrs a week 4x12, 8 of that is 1.5. When you work 12+,its double time. Yeaaaa. I ain't one to hate on operators. But... They got it pretty good.
As an IT guy who's spent years helping management prove to operations why hourly labor is killing profits, you learn stuff.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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no, but i'm considering moving to IT. i may have posted about that.
Maybe. Not shitting on you but I was just curious because that would be a low salary with a few years of experience in BR much less Dallas
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:17 pm to mikelbr
I get 1.5 for four hours for a call out. If I work more than four im just laid for the time Im there. I've been called out maybe 4 times this year.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:18 pm to jdeval1
well i don't have "a few years" regardless
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:21 pm to heatom2
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I get 1.5 for four hours for a call out. If I work more than four im just laid for the time Im there. I've been called out maybe 4 times this year.
The real bad guys are Maintenance. Errybody knows that. Skilled motherfrickers for sure. But when they start at 45 and overtime is often crucial so they're hanging around a shutdown at 105/hr for 12 hrs x 7 days..... To change two pumps and a conveyor? Ummm
Operators the magic $ is around 125K.
Maintenance at the top spots in top facilities are at $175. Managers will often want to see who these folks are annually and evaluate.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:31 pm to mikelbr
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Operators the magic $ is around 125K.
What does this mean?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:45 pm to TigeRoots
Is this where we talk about a career that will be obsolete within 10 years?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:12 pm to NIH
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Is this where we talk about a career that will be obsolete within 10 years?
What happens when the unit's upset and everything has to be controlled manually via the DCS or by manual block valve manipulation? Who's gonna get equipment in a safe state for maintenance to work on it?
If you truly think plants can be run w/o human intervention, then I hope your kids are more intelligent than you are.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:17 pm to NIH
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Is this where we talk about a career that will be obsolete within 10 years?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:21 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Sounds like your job is at stake. You should've stayed in school.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:28 pm to TheMidasTouch
The few times a year when a plant goes up in flames I’m glad a 2 year degree is given to a river rat.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:31 pm to NIH
Most plants are highly automated already and that stuff breaks daily. It’s no different than an airplane. Sure a computer can fly it, but the pilot’s seat won’t be empty anytime soon.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:32 pm to NIH
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You should've stayed in school.
I didn't feel like going for my Master's. Maybe one of these days I'll do it, but I don't really see where I'll need anything beyond my AAS and BS degrees.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:40 pm to TheMidasTouch
They are the ones that open and close valves...Monitor gauges and pressures of the equipment..Basically controls the flow of all the processes going in the plant.. They make the end product..and make sure nothing blows up...
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:40 pm to NIH
Haha yeah operation jobs are going no where.
To those asking about pay, in the LC area at the good plants top pay is 39-42 an hour for non board operators and takes 3-5 years to reach top pay depending on the plant. Board operators make between 45-50 give or take. So on average they make more than 80% or so of white collar jobs. Factor in a 6-8% 401k match that many places plus some places get a pension...yea it's a good career. I wouldn't give up my engineering job for it, but it provides a damn good living.
To all the white collar guys that like to talk shite...these guys aren't dumb. Most are smart as shite mechanically. Most just know the math or have the drive for engineering. Not all operators are but the ones that do well are. The dumb ones are the old guys still turning valves.
As far as them despising contractors, ice found that o my to be true to the big gc's like Turner and only if the foreman has been a dick in the past. I work for a speciality company and they treat the guys that work for me very well and have always treated me well.
Oh and to the guy that said you could talk to safety guys like that...bullshite. try that in a big oil facility like p66, Valero, exxon, motiva etc or some place like sasol or even axiall and you will be on your way to the gate in a heart beat. Same goes for contractor safety guys, your gone,no questions asked.
To those asking about pay, in the LC area at the good plants top pay is 39-42 an hour for non board operators and takes 3-5 years to reach top pay depending on the plant. Board operators make between 45-50 give or take. So on average they make more than 80% or so of white collar jobs. Factor in a 6-8% 401k match that many places plus some places get a pension...yea it's a good career. I wouldn't give up my engineering job for it, but it provides a damn good living.
To all the white collar guys that like to talk shite...these guys aren't dumb. Most are smart as shite mechanically. Most just know the math or have the drive for engineering. Not all operators are but the ones that do well are. The dumb ones are the old guys still turning valves.
As far as them despising contractors, ice found that o my to be true to the big gc's like Turner and only if the foreman has been a dick in the past. I work for a speciality company and they treat the guys that work for me very well and have always treated me well.
Oh and to the guy that said you could talk to safety guys like that...bullshite. try that in a big oil facility like p66, Valero, exxon, motiva etc or some place like sasol or even axiall and you will be on your way to the gate in a heart beat. Same goes for contractor safety guys, your gone,no questions asked.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:41 pm to Bailcracker
the people who designed the process, patented it, sold and/or built it are the experts of "the unit"
(fluor, kbr, bechtel, etc..)
(fluor, kbr, bechtel, etc..)
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:01 am to lsu777
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Oh and to the guy that said you could talk to safety guys like that...bullshite. try that in a big oil facility like p66, Valero, exxon, motiva etc or some place like sasol or even axiall and you will be on your way to the gate in a heart beat.
I didn't try, I have. And will continue to when I'm in the right.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:33 am to TheMidasTouch
quote:typically he's a newbie that doesn't know jack shite. Thank God for automation, which I provide.
plant “operator”
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:38 am to Asharad
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Thank God for automation.
No shite, I know guys that have put several kids through private school because of the overtime required to fix the frickups automation causes.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:38 am to TheMidasTouch
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What exactly is a plant “operator”?
Homer Simpson
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