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Posted on 6/18/23 at 4:25 am to Schmelly
Functional alcoholic = Maintenance drunk
Posted on 6/18/23 at 4:46 am to Schmelly
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drink once a week/Get drunk 3-4 times a year & need 4 days of silence to recover
Well that is continuing to drink despite spending a total of 16 days a year recovering from drinking way too much. Not necessarily picking on/calling you out but pointing out that lots of people continue to drink/use despite having repeated negative consequences from drinking/using. It's like saying here 'my pit bull mauls me 3-4 times a year but I am keeping it'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to keep a dog that bites you, but you do. Your friend is just further along with his disease than you are.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 5:14 am to Schmelly
I work with a guy who probably drinks a 12 pack every night. Shows up for work every morning (yes always dresses sloppy and looks poorly groomed), but does a great job and one of the best engineers we have.
That’s what I assume a functioning alcoholic is.
That’s what I assume a functioning alcoholic is.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 5:15 am to Beessnax
Found the person in recovery. You must be early on, because you would know to worry about keeping your own sidewalk swept
Posted on 6/18/23 at 5:45 am to jrobic4
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Found the person in recovery. You must be early on
Completely incorrect. My example was from the book used to diagnose substance abuse problems.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 6:05 am to Schmelly
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- ends in us getting into it and me putting him down
did you kill him?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 6:10 am to Schmelly
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What does “functional alcoholic” mean?
You appear sober while you're drunk, but appear drunk while you're sober.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 6:14 am to Schmelly
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Muhfricka won’t be able to pronounce banana at 3am but will shoot 82 while drinking margaritas on the back 9 the next morning
Following
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:21 am to Schmelly
Work offshore, so only drink 50% of the time.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:25 am to Schmelly
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Muhfricka won’t be able to pronounce banana at 3am but will shoot 82 while drinking margaritas on the back 9 the next morning
He won’t get help unless he wants it. If two divorces and cancer didn’t stop him, the likelihood of you helping is small.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 7:27 am
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:40 am to Schmelly
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To keep it light…we came too blows the first time & strong words the second time, only due to me being sober & knowing “if I say the right words, shite goes bad”
If you’re grown adults and as friends getting into physical altercations, you both have problems.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:52 am to Schmelly
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ends in us getting into it and me putting him down
Is your friend a pitbull?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:05 am to Schmelly
Alcoholism runs on my dads side of the family.
My grandfather was a “functional Alcoholic” and my grandmother was an alcoholic. Grandmother would drink 6-12 beer a day (and smoked 2 packs an day)and didn’t work. My grandfather was a lead engineer that traveled from project to project around the nation as they build new plants. When he got home from work he would drink Cutty Sark and water, which was minimal water. And he would drink 3-4 per night
My grandmother passed at age 59 with a host of issues but mainly sorosis of the liver. Grandfather made it to 72.
Didn’t realize it till I was older and looked back on it that they were alcoholics. I would stay with them weeks at a time during the summer as a kid. I became their bartender getting her a beer or mixing his drinks.
Dad older brother followed same path. Died at around 60 of sorosis as well.
My grandfather was a “functional Alcoholic” and my grandmother was an alcoholic. Grandmother would drink 6-12 beer a day (and smoked 2 packs an day)and didn’t work. My grandfather was a lead engineer that traveled from project to project around the nation as they build new plants. When he got home from work he would drink Cutty Sark and water, which was minimal water. And he would drink 3-4 per night
My grandmother passed at age 59 with a host of issues but mainly sorosis of the liver. Grandfather made it to 72.
Didn’t realize it till I was older and looked back on it that they were alcoholics. I would stay with them weeks at a time during the summer as a kid. I became their bartender getting her a beer or mixing his drinks.
Dad older brother followed same path. Died at around 60 of sorosis as well.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:06 am to Schmelly
A functional alcoholic is someone that drinks high amounts just to get through the day. Every day. These people always have booze in the system and still operate reasonably well within society. In my experience, they drink a lot of vodka.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:10 am to Beessnax
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Well that is continuing to drink despite spending a total of 16 days a year recovering from drinking way too much. Not necessarily picking on/calling you out but pointing out that lots of people continue to drink/use despite having repeated negative consequences from drinking/using. It's like saying here 'my pit bull mauls me 3-4 times a year but I am keeping it'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to keep a dog that bites you, but you do. Your friend is just further along with his disease than you are.
This is dumb.
OP’s not an addict. Drinking once per week and getting hammered 3 - 4 times a year is the definition of social drinking. Just because it takes him longer to recover doesn’t make him an alcoholic.
You can’t do anything more for your friend once you’ve told him you’re concerned for his health and wellbeing. He has to make the decision to seek help.
Or you could kidnap him and keep him locked up in your spare room for a couple months, that might work.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:10 am to The Third Leg
Yeah this is an accurate definition as I understand it. I dipped my toe in AA and talked to a bunch of people. I was worried because I drink 3-4 light beers every evening and have done so for years. I didn’t understand that you effectively have to have alcohol in your system all the time just to function. Small vodka drinks in the morning, noon and then night just to keep yourself in gear.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:16 am to Schmelly
I can give you the answer to what a functional alcoholic is based on my late brother's life.
He was my half-brother, his father died in a single-car accident, probably was drinking but it was in the 50s so that wasn't checked at all.
Fast forward, he started drinking probably around 14 years of age. He had several near misses with vehicle accidents as a teen. Got married at 18.
For the next 20-25 years he got drunk every night. He showed up for work early every day unless he was legitimately sick, maybe three times in that time period. He was basically a model employee and moved into management from a welder position fairly young.
That is what a functional alcoholic looks like. He didn't hide his drinking, after a couple of DWIs he started mostly drinking at home. He did kick the drinking for probably 10-15 years. He started again before he passed away but not on the level he did before and not every day. Alcohol was not a significant factor in his death but smoking was. His smoking and alcohol use paralleled each other.
He was my half-brother, his father died in a single-car accident, probably was drinking but it was in the 50s so that wasn't checked at all.
Fast forward, he started drinking probably around 14 years of age. He had several near misses with vehicle accidents as a teen. Got married at 18.
For the next 20-25 years he got drunk every night. He showed up for work early every day unless he was legitimately sick, maybe three times in that time period. He was basically a model employee and moved into management from a welder position fairly young.
That is what a functional alcoholic looks like. He didn't hide his drinking, after a couple of DWIs he started mostly drinking at home. He did kick the drinking for probably 10-15 years. He started again before he passed away but not on the level he did before and not every day. Alcohol was not a significant factor in his death but smoking was. His smoking and alcohol use paralleled each other.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:44 am to Schmelly
In all of the op there was virtually no mention of his friend drinking outside of with the op.
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