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What do you think is happening in Aleppo? Who do you believe?

Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:15 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:15 am
On one side you have western media sources reporting what is essentially a genocide with the government forces killing everyone. On the other, you have Russian media reporting that residents are celebrating their "liberation" from the rebels.

In today's age where people are more skeptical of the media than ever before, who do you believe?
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 8:22 am
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25349 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:16 am to
Truth usually lies somewhere in between


Edit for typo
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 8:17 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Truth usually lies somewhere in between


So both?
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9481 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:20 am to
Whatever it is, we need to stay out of it.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:22 am to
We can't afford to be that naive/comfortable. They need our help. Obama should be ashamed he didn't do more during his Presidency.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26441 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:23 am to
Well ceasefire is in effect again and they were busing the residents out this morning.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:25 am to
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Obama should be ashamed he didn't do more during his Presidency.


I think Obama managed to continue the tradition of f'ing up the Middle East nicely during his Presidency.

Now I can buy the argument that we need to help the civilians as a way of making up for our disastrous foreign policy.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30182 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:27 am to
I believe my Syrian friend who has been in contact with family still trapped there. It's a slaughter of innocents.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8718 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:29 am to
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We can't afford to be that naive/comfortable. They need our help. Obama should be ashamed he didn't do more during his Presidency.


What exactly should he have done?

I am no fan of the man's presidency in general and foreign policy in particular, but the only truly effective measure would have been to send in thousands of soldiers to quell the violence. Russia and Iran have far more at stake there than we ever will, and they will raise the price of intervening until it is too costly for us to continue. Should hundreds or thousands more American soldiers die for a place that matters little in the grand scheme of things and for a people who largely either don't care about us or hate us?
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4592 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:30 am to
Don't know
It's not a USA issue to resolve
Those countries/governments/dictators/war lords/people have been fitghting for centuries

Guess what ?
The same will continue to fight for centuries to come no matter what or who tries to stop it
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13527 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:32 am to
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What do you think is happening in Aleppo?

Bashar is going scorched earth on Aleppo, and he's using continuous mortar bombardment to create enough fear that any civilians in the city will turn on the rebels in order to end it.

The civilian slaughters are being conducted through awful intelligence where certain neighborhoods have been designated as pro-rebel, and therefore they're killing anyone they think is against the government.

Al-Assad is using this as his chance to squash any Syrian's thoughts about continuing to fight the government. He thinks he is making a statement by committing atrocities, and he probably is.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21023 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:32 am to
By both sides?

This mess was started and instigated by the US government with Hillary and McCain spear heading it. Blames lies directly at their feet.

Stay the frick out of it, we've done enough damage. I hope assad prevails, lesser of multiple evils, which is usually the case everywhere in the ME.

Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6044 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:34 am to
Assad will have peace, even if he has to kill everyone to get it.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17230 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:36 am to
quote:

We can't afford to be that naive/comfortable. They need our help. Obama should be ashamed he didn't do more during his Presidency.


One of the only goddamn things Obama did right in his presidency was keeping our military out of direct intervention in the Syrian civil war. And I don't think there was much conviction or ideology behind that policy, I think he stumbled and bumbled into it like most everything else in his administration's foreign policy but I'm thankful for it nonetheless.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:36 am to
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This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4998 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:37 am to
quote:

This mess was started and instigated by the US government with Hillary and McCain spear heading it. Blames lies directly at their feet.


I heard Hillary Clinton injected Magic Johnson with HIV in his sleep.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22068 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:53 am to
Jesus, I trust the side that isn't Russian media.

Has shite become so politicized that people are actually willing to accept the Russian state sponsored narrative?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:55 am to
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What do you think is happening in Aleppo? Who do you believe?


Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40227 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:57 am to
quote:

We can't afford to be that naive/comfortable. They need our help. Obama should be ashamed he didn't do more during his Presidency.
it's not our fight.
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