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re: "What are your salary expectations?"

Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
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You’re not getting that nowadays unless you’re jumping levels. You’re getting 10%.


Damn. I keep hoping for closer to 15% as I look.
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7631 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:08 pm to
It's always better to nut up, be straightforward and give them a number. Do your research and know the worth of the position.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37460 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:09 pm to
The first person to offer a number loses.

I expect comparable compensation compared to individuals in the current role with similar levels of experience and expertise as I. I’ll allow you, who have greater resources than I to research this, to let me know how much you potentially value my contribution to your organization.

Eta
Or you can be an responsible adult and do what the poster above me said and just give them a number.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1130 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:09 pm to
Value the entire deal not just salary. Salary, Annual Bonus, singing bonus, stock, benefit costs, matching 401k contributions and vacation.
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
806 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:18 pm to
IDK the correct answer, but if you have an in demand job, you may also consider taking vacation days to the negotiating table. As you get older, time becomes more and more valuable and I am probably slightly young to even be saying this.
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
766 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:19 pm to
Competitive. In negotiations you never want to lead out first. They could be willing to give you 350 and you might say 150. This you left 200 on the table. Or ask way above what you want, assuming they will come down.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17130 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:20 pm to
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They want you to low ball yourself counter it with a high number.



That's exactly what they are doing.

If they ask for my salary expectations I hit them with the high range on glassdoor
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14441 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:20 pm to
Why not use Indeed or something similar to get an idea for data scientist in different markets:

like so :
san Diego


Jax
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17130 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:20 pm to
If you're that good and have the savings...why not open your own consultancy business?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11268 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:22 pm to
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The problem is I made what I made in San Diego, a high cost of living market, and each time I use that number the recruiter goes haywire about how San Diego salaries do not scale to the geography I am applying to.



I can share that in my current role I make $$$$ but understand that may not scale into this market. I am open to reviewing what you feel is a market appropriate offer.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:22 pm to
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What is your field?


Lookin pretty and chuggin cock.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
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I've been out of work for all of 2021,


How were you the #1 data scientist at a major broadcasting company, let go and out of work for all of 2021 during a time when data scientists can’t keep recruiters away. Something isn’t adding up
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
“My current salary is $$$$$$, I’m confident based on my track record and your business needs we can find a mutually beneficial number”
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11268 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:24 pm to
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IDK the correct answer, but if you have an in demand job, you may also consider taking vacation days to the negotiating table. As you get older, time becomes more and more valuable and I am probably slightly young to even be saying this.


I do tend to utilize that “all jobs and compensation packages are structured differently, and I am eager to learn about this position in a comprehensive fashion instead of just throwing out a salary.”

Paired with some variety of “I make approximately $$$ plus a great incentive/bonus package and do expect this position to be a next step in my career in order to make a transition” — it tends to give them a ball park.

I might also high ball a little bit there
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25296 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:24 pm to
"I feel I will be one of your most productive employees, however I understand I have to prove myself to you so I will take slightly above market average for this role (in this market) if you provide me the opportunity to make more based on my actual job performance after the first year"

This line of thought does a few things. They gonna offer you what they can afford to pay you but it shows that you are in it for the long haul and expect to be paid based on ability.

Also, it isn't prudent for them to low ball you as you will leave nor is is wise to price yourself out of the job because all jobs have a "budgeted number" (except commissioned sales)
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:26 pm to
I wouldn't budge on giving them a starting point.

I'd say something like:

"There are far too many variables at this point for me to be remotely comfortable suggesting a number. I have no idea how much time off, retirement matching, health and life insurance costs, potential bonus structure, flexible scheduling opportunities...I just don't know enough. HOWEVER, I am very interested in pursuing this opportunity, and I'm confident that if this is the right fit for both of us, we'll be able to work something out"

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25455 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Value the entire deal not just salary. Salary, Annual Bonus, singing bonus, stock, benefit costs, matching 401k contributions and vacation.




that's kind of important.

Someone may tell you the offer $130k, but they match 2% on the 401k, give you 2 weeks vacation, no quarterly or annual bonuses, and they don't give you a car.
Someone else may tell you $115k, but they match 4% on the 401k, give you 3 weeks vacation, annual bonus up to 20% of total salary, and you get car allowance, which is typically a $10k/yr benefit.


I've always just told them what i make now and that it would at a minimum need to be that, and that i'm looking for more.
Posted by MardiGrasMambo
Metry
Member since Feb 2018
723 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:29 pm to
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goldennugget

Have a range you want to make in mind and stick to it. The bottom of your range should be the smallest amount you're willing to work for at this new job. Or if you have wiggle room, push for higher compensation in other areas (401K match, PTO etc).
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3281 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:29 pm to
“I expect to not feel remorse towards my employer once I inevitably find out what my co-workers are making”
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 4/29/21 at 1:31 pm to
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san Diego


I made more than that in San Diego

I just got done with a Round 2 interview with a Big 4, and they gave me a number upfront. I wish everyone did that.
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