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re: What are some customized must haves when building new homes?

Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:09 am to
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nice

I still have no idea why you need these everywhere


To be honest with the latest trends in wireless tech, you may not need it after about 2021.

CAT6 hardwires provide the fastest, most stable connection to the internet. It is the preferred method for running Apple TV, Roku, FireTV boxes as well as connecting your computer in a personal office.

CAT6 with PoE switches (internet wire that also supplies power) should be run for locations that you plan on installing cameras such as doorways and garages.


I am going out on a limb a little in saying this but there are some new advancements in wireless tech that may make CAT6 less desirable. The problem is that they are at least another 5 years away from being mainstream.


ETA: added switches to the PoE comment
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:11 am to
I'm not reading through 6 pages but if it's 2 story and most of the non guest bedrooms are on the 2nd floor put the laundry room on the 2nd floor.

Yes there is a small chance of a big leak but if you maintain your appliances and swap out the washer supply hoses every so often it's better than schlepping laundry up and down the fricking stairs.
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:13 am to
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CAT6 with PoE (internet wire that also supplies power) should be run for locations that you plan on installing cameras such as doorways and garages.


Cat6 is Cat6. There is no POE version. PoE sends the power over the normal cat6 copper wires, the same wires that carry the data. PoE was a big driver for the Cat6 movement.

And never trust a wireless connection if you can make that connection wired. Wireless will never be a 1:1 replacement for wired. It is a bandaid that should only be used when you can't do it properly.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:15 am to
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Cat6 is Cat6. There is no POE version. PoE sends the power over the normal cat6 copper wires, the same wires that carry the data. PoE was a big driver for the Cat6 movement.


sorry, I meant PoE switches...
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:17 am to
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3 bedrooms 3.5 baths
If you are going to do a study or flex space, make sure it has a closet so you can list it as a 4 bedroom if you ever sell.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:27 am to
sex swing and stripper pole in the walk in shower in master bedroom

no pics
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:27 am to
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And never trust a wireless connection if you can make that connection wired. Wireless will never be a 1:1 replacement for wired. It is a bandaid that should only be used when you can't do it properly.


The issue with hardwired connections is that you lose flexibilty in rearranging furniture/appliances

I believe mesh networks (currently available but expensive) and 802.11ay (in development) will provide stability and throughput speeds that most consumers will find acceptable.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:31 am to
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Cat6 is Cat6. There is no POE version. PoE sends the power over the normal cat6 copper wires, the same wires that carry the data. PoE was a big driver for the Cat6 movement.



sorry, I meant PoE switches..



Easier than running cat6 cable all over the house. Also convenient for retrofits.

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Posted by CunningLinguist
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:34 am to
NO CARPET. Hardwood floors the whole house except kitchen and bathrooms.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:40 am to
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NO CARPET. Hardwood floors the whole house except kitchen and bathrooms.


No doubt
Posted by Passing Wind
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:56 am to
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NO CARPET. Hardwood floors the whole house except kitchen and bathrooms.

We did this in one we are building now. There's not a single thread of carpet. All wood upstairs and down. Using area rugs to soften it up in areas needed.
Posted by Passing Wind
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:58 am to
Man by the time you buy all those you can pay way less to run lines all over. They are already pulling the lines for cable & electric. I basically just paid for cat 6 wire. Way less than those would have cost me trust me. Plus it's hard wire.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:02 am to
Someone else mentioned layout suggestion regarding laundry room connected to bedrooms. It really makes great sense. Ours is currently connected to the small cased opening to our master bedroom, and it connects on the other side to a small hall way that opens to the kids' bedrooms and bath. It's really, really, really nice. Our initial drawings had it on the other side of the house next to the garage and mud room, and I'm really happy that we moved it.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:04 am to
Spend money on kitchen and bathrooms, especially the master. Granite countertops, lots of cabinets (custom if it's in your budget) and nice appliances in the kitchen. Dual sinks, large shower, walk in closet with lots of space to hang close are important for the master. Those are two of the biggest things people look at when purchasing a home, so it will be important when you decide to sell. More important than just about anything else from a resell standpoint.

If it's a forever home, make sure you separate the master from the other bedrooms and don't waste valuable floor space with a formal dining room that will never get used.
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:10 pm to
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I believe mesh networks (currently available but expensive) and 802.11ay (in development) will provide stability and throughput speeds that most consumers will find acceptable.


and still easily hackable and interfered with. Again, they can be useful to bandaid inconvenient situations but they were never be a 1:1 replacement for wired.

As for your flexibility comment, that is exactly why you tackle that issue when you build the house. Put connections everywhere you can think of. If you don't want to run the extra cables, at least put in conduit with pull strings so you can later pull cable to an outlet box later. You have infinite flexibility for hardwired connections before you start hanging sheet rock. Take some time and think ahead.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:12 pm to
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NO CARPET. Hardwood floors the whole house except kitchen and bathrooms.


We tried that once. If you get too far north hardwood is too cold in the winter. Carpet in the bedrooms is nice to have.

as for your kitchen comment, that isn't necessarily a great recommendation either. I would not recommend using engineered hardwood in the kitchen but finish-in-place hardwood floors are great for the kitchen and even half baths on the main the floor. If you have an open layout, having the wood floors throughout the open spaces looks much better than breaking it up with alternatives.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Man by the time you buy all those you can pay way less to run lines all over. They are already pulling the lines for cable & electric. I basically just paid for cat 6 wire. Way less than those would have cost me trust me. Plus it's hard wire.



I guess, I just don't see the need to hardwire into every room. 99% of people would be just fine with a wifi connection.

I'll tell you one that I would for sure if I was building new, and in fact we are remodeling and I will use in all locations where we replace electrical outlets (interior of course)




They also make them in double outlet size. This is just the picture I found.


Very handy
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:16 pm to
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I'll tell you one that I would for sure if I was building new, and in fact we are remodeling and I will use in all locations where we replace electrical outlets (interior of course)


These things are something to do as you need it. They are like $10 and a 3 minute install to DIY.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:32 pm to
Make the main bathroom handicap friendly. Shower seat and wider bathroom door. You never know what may happen in future with your family. It will save you a ton of headaches if and when your are injured.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:37 pm to
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These things are something to do as you need it. They are like $10 and a 3 minute install to DIY.


Yes, as a retrofit, but if you were building a new home, it's something to do right then. They don't cost any more than conventional outlets.


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