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re: What are acceptable protests in your opinion?

Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:38 am to
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:38 am to
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The second Kap put on a Castro shirt and pig socks it became NOT ok. The Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT ok. He had the forum of fame and the opportunity with ESPN etc.. and chose a disrespectful path. He's also an idiot so that didn't help


Okay, so again - what is an acceptable avenue? Peaceful is not okay, violent is not okay.

What should it be, or should protest in either form not be allowable?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:39 am to
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The second Kap put on a Castro shirt and pig socks it became NOT ok. The Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT ok. He had the forum of fame and the opportunity with ESPN etc.. and chose a disrespectful path. He's also an idiot so that didn't help



So you agree with the Lebron approach?
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:40 am to
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Kneeling for the anthem didn’t bother me. I would never disrespect the flag, it’s not what I would do, but it’s literally harmless.


I think this is the proper perspective and how everyone should have felt about it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:41 am to
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What are acceptable protests in your opinion?



Only the ones that people identify with.



That’s the truth of the matter.


Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:42 am to
This is one of those threads where the OP doesn't care what anyone says, he will let it go awhile, then proceed to tell everyone how wrong they are. Might as well make a farce about it.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:42 am to
Anything peaceful, not the shite that's going on now.
Posted by BlindTiger7
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:44 am to
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So shouldn't kneeling at the anthem be acceptable?


Yeah, sure that's fine.


But if I'm the owner and I tell you to stay in the locker room until kickoff, that should be acceptable

Or if I don't want to sign you because of the bad publicity and media you would bring to my organization, that should be acceptable

I get the whole using your platform, but I can't stand when this stuff makes its way into sports
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:44 am to
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Only the ones that people identify with.



There's a lot of truth to this

there wouldn't really be a need to "protest" if everybody accepted the ideal in question - that's kinda the whole point, right?

I will say that destruction of property by unrelated and innocent third parties is pretty much always the wrong way to go.
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:44 am to
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This is one of those threads where the OP doesn't care what anyone says, he will let it go awhile, then proceed to tell everyone how wrong they are. Might as well make a farce about it.


Well, I haven't done that once yet. Is it more comfortable for you to assume those intentions and therefore avoid the question altogether than it is for you to answer the question:

What is an acceptable avenue to protest?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:45 am to
Nobody with any sense thinks the anthem kneeling was somehow "not acceptable." It was just gauche and tone deaf virtue signaling by a bunch of millionaires who willingly went against the wishes of their private employers. Kneel all you want, but it's not gonna change anyone's mind.

The rioting and looting of private property is completely different. If you are mad at the cops, take your fight to the cops. Don't burn a Target. People destroying private property should be shot (yes, I'm aware that this is not legal).
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 7:49 am
Posted by marchballer
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:46 am to
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It was an acceptable form of protest, he wasn't breaking any laws or harming anyone else. That doesn't mean you have to agree with the guy. It's also acceptable to me that it made him unhireable as an NFL player.


People have their blinders on. Forgetting the crap that was said during that time.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:46 am to
You keep saying “allowable”. Nobody was wanting Kap thrown in prison. They just thought what he was protesting was ill-defined and that he was an attention whore.

But this question is kind of hilarious because you are framing his protest in comparison to the absolute bottom levels of human behavior as was exhibited in MN last night. Was his protest “better” than rioting and looting? Clearly. But what point are you making other than that it cleared an extremely low bar? His protest was nonviolent and he was never in danger of being imprisoned for it.
Posted by jfw3535
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:47 am to
Definitely by attacking a woman in a wheelchair.

LINK
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:47 am to
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But if I'm the owner and I tell you to stay in the locker room until kickoff, that should be acceptable

Or if I don't want to sign you because of the bad publicity and media you would bring to my organization, that should be acceptable

I get the whole using your platform, but I can't stand when this stuff makes its way into sports


Agreed, owners have rights to protect their business interests from controversial issues/opinions by their employees.

I may disagree with if an owner should or should not take those actions - but alas they are, rightfully so, 100% allowed to make those decisions.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:47 am to
Looting a privately owned liquor store because you are mad at the cops.
Posted by reverendotis
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:48 am to
Women going topless/nude are the only worthwhile protests ever.

This is the OT for Christ's sake.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:50 am to
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Anything peaceful, not the shite that's going on now.







This country was founded on protests. Let’s just be clear.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:52 am to
I liked the nineties Persian gulf war shite. I was a kid, but I remember students storming the floor before basketball games and sitting down in protest of the war. Nobody died. Nothing was stolen.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:52 am to
quote:

You keep saying “allowable”. Nobody was wanting Kap thrown in prison. They just thought what he was protesting was ill-defined and that he was an attention whore.

But this question is kind of hilarious because you are framing his protest in comparison to the absolute bottom levels of human behavior as was exhibited in MN last night. Was his protest “better” than rioting and looting? Clearly. But what point are you making other than that it cleared an extremely low bar? His protest was nonviolent and he was never in danger of being imprisoned for it.


My point isn't that it's one or the other. My point is we have two opposite ends of the spectrum here, and yet both are considered disgraceful by the detractors:

Yes, the riots are extreme, disgraceful, etc. But a large majority of people try to ignore the core issue and reason behind the protests by feigning outrage over the avenue of the protest. Like with kneeling.

It was peaceful and benevolent to the nth degree. Yet it was still considered disgraceful by many people. And those are the people that this question is directed at.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:53 am to
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responses in, 2 deflections already addressed in OP (i.e. I do not condone the rioting)

Off to a great start, as expected




You knowingly walked into a pigsty wearing white loafers and a white suit. Did you really think you were going to get out without being muddy?

On topic. Non violence is more effective. But the thing that works, the ONLY thing that works, is economic penalties. Make those in power feel it in the wallet. It is, as anyone who has common sense and any knowledge of history knows, what works every time.
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