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What are acceptable protests in your opinion?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:30 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:30 am
I am referring to Minnesota and the general frustration that people have with the treatment of black people by law enforcement officers.
There is a large segment of the population, heavily represented on this board I might add, that has condemned both these riots and peaceful protesting by athletes.
When it was peaceful - it was considered too disrespectful, attention-whoring, not going to lead to any real change. When it is violent it is considered dangerous, counter-productive to good change, and only hurting the communities.
So I ask - what would be acceptable forms of protest in your opinion?
This will get derailed quickly but let's start by addressing a few deflections and straw-mans that will inevitably be posted in lieu of a logical and rational response to the bolded question:
1) I am not condoning violent protest. I think kneeling for the anthem was a good way to do this. I am addressing the question to the folks that were upset by both kneeling and rioting
2) The anthem kneeling was not directed at the troops. Just because you disagree with the cause/reason, does not mean you get to twist it into a position that is more easy for you to refute. It has been stated multiple times, and from the beginning, the kneeling was directed towards the treatment of black people by law enforcement
3) It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the core reason that these riots/protests occur, i.e. if you do not believe there exists a cultural problem between blacks and law enforcement. The question is what form of protest would be acceptable, not whether or not you think protest should occur.
This question is geared to those who condemned kneeling and rioting. What should the avenue be?
There is a large segment of the population, heavily represented on this board I might add, that has condemned both these riots and peaceful protesting by athletes.
When it was peaceful - it was considered too disrespectful, attention-whoring, not going to lead to any real change. When it is violent it is considered dangerous, counter-productive to good change, and only hurting the communities.
So I ask - what would be acceptable forms of protest in your opinion?
This will get derailed quickly but let's start by addressing a few deflections and straw-mans that will inevitably be posted in lieu of a logical and rational response to the bolded question:
1) I am not condoning violent protest. I think kneeling for the anthem was a good way to do this. I am addressing the question to the folks that were upset by both kneeling and rioting
2) The anthem kneeling was not directed at the troops. Just because you disagree with the cause/reason, does not mean you get to twist it into a position that is more easy for you to refute. It has been stated multiple times, and from the beginning, the kneeling was directed towards the treatment of black people by law enforcement
3) It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the core reason that these riots/protests occur, i.e. if you do not believe there exists a cultural problem between blacks and law enforcement. The question is what form of protest would be acceptable, not whether or not you think protest should occur.
This question is geared to those who condemned kneeling and rioting. What should the avenue be?
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 7:31 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:31 am to Tigerfan56
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So I ask - what would be acceptable forms of protest in your opinion?
Burning and looting. #Blacklivesmatter
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:31 am to Tigerfan56
We should burn and destroy more property, probably rape, plunder, and pillage in a more dramatic way as well. More guns and shootings of those who disagree
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:32 am to Tigerfan56
NON VIOLENT NON DESTRUCTIVE
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:32 am to Tigerfan56
IMO, peaceful protests go further. If your goal is to stop violence, then it shouldn't be protested in the form of violence.
These aren't protests, they are robbery through temper tantrums thrown by a bunch of adult adolescents.
These aren't protests, they are robbery through temper tantrums thrown by a bunch of adult adolescents.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:32 am to Tigerfan56
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o I ask - what would be acceptable forms of protest in your opinion?
Blocking an interstate during rush hour.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:33 am to tduecen
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Burning and looting. #Blacklivesmatter
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We should burn and destroy more property, probably rape, plunder, and pillage in a more dramatic way as well. More guns and shootings of those who disagree
2 responses in, 2 deflections already addressed in OP (i.e. I do not condone the rioting)
Off to a great start, as expected
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:33 am to Tigerfan56
Wait no this wasn’t okay either.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:34 am to LSUBoo
Don't forget throwing things and hitting cars that get close, destruction of personal property is ok because they probably have insurance
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:34 am to The Sea Otter
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IMO, peaceful protests go further. If your goal is to stop violence, then it shouldn't be protested in the form of violence.
These aren't protests, they are robbery through temper tantrums thrown by a bunch of adult adolescents.
I agree. So shouldn't kneeling at the anthem be acceptable?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:34 am to Tigerfan56
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2 responses in, 2 deflections already addressed in OP (i.e. I do not condone the rioting)
Off to a great start, as expected
Cry more bitch.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:35 am to Tigerfan56
Something behind a barricade so when I walk by I can’t hear them.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:36 am to Tigerfan56
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I agree. So shouldn't kneeling at the anthem be acceptable?
If no one would have paid them any attention then it would have been a nonissue.
They got what they wanted, attention.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:36 am to Tigerfan56
Certainly not robbing and torching places of private business.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:36 am to t00f
Something short of burning things, robbing people, and attacking people
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:36 am to Tigerfan56
Kneeling for the anthem didn’t bother me. I would never disrespect the flag, it’s not what I would do, but it’s literally harmless.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:36 am to Tigerfan56
This is way to well said and thoughtful for the OT. Prepare thy self for poli board mouth breathers coming in here and stinking up the place.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:37 am to marchballer
The second Kap put on a Castro shirt and pig socks it became NOT ok. The Kneeling during the national anthem is NOT ok. He had the forum of fame and the opportunity with ESPN etc.. and chose a disrespectful path. He's also an idiot so that didn't help
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:38 am to Tigerfan56
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I agree. So shouldn't kneeling at the anthem be acceptable?
It was an acceptable form of protest, he wasn't breaking any laws or harming anyone else. That doesn't mean you have to agree with the guy. It's also acceptable to me that it made him unhireable as an NFL player.
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