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re: Were you raised in a racist environment?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:24 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:24 pm to Pettifogger
Lordguill told a story one time where the moral was “he’s not as racist as you think he is, and he’s not as racist as he thinks he is.”
A Think it’s kind of funny how a man can employ decent, hardworking blacks. Treat them as equals. How he would think nothing of helping out his fellow man, regardless of color, in a time of true need.
But if he uses a certain word in private to describe the trashy, ignorant subset of a culture, the one that takes no responsibility and destroys their environment, and holds them in the same disdain he holds white trash, he’s the most virulent racist ever.
But if some crazy bitch treats blacks like they are incapable of taking care of themselves, is paternalistic in her lowered expectations, and in her heart of hearts thinks that they need her white wisdom to better themselves, she’s supposed to be some godsend. Even though she only works to keep them in submission and dependent on the government.
It’s really screwed up how people think.
A Think it’s kind of funny how a man can employ decent, hardworking blacks. Treat them as equals. How he would think nothing of helping out his fellow man, regardless of color, in a time of true need.
But if he uses a certain word in private to describe the trashy, ignorant subset of a culture, the one that takes no responsibility and destroys their environment, and holds them in the same disdain he holds white trash, he’s the most virulent racist ever.
But if some crazy bitch treats blacks like they are incapable of taking care of themselves, is paternalistic in her lowered expectations, and in her heart of hearts thinks that they need her white wisdom to better themselves, she’s supposed to be some godsend. Even though she only works to keep them in submission and dependent on the government.
It’s really screwed up how people think.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:26 pm to fr33manator
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But if some crazy bitch treats blacks like they are incapable of taking care of themselves, is paternalistic in her lowered expectations, and in her heart of hearts thinks that they need her white wisdom to better themselves, she’s supposed to be some godsend. Even though she only works to keep them in submission and dependent on the government.
I see what you did there.
I have a thread coming out in a week or 2 regarding this
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:27 pm to High C
Yes
My sainted grandmother, who never spoke an ill word of anyone, would drop the N word in a second.
The town I grew up in was segregated with all the blacks living on the east side.
One time a black guy came down our street dribbling a basketball, my mom called the cops
My sainted grandmother, who never spoke an ill word of anyone, would drop the N word in a second.
The town I grew up in was segregated with all the blacks living on the east side.
One time a black guy came down our street dribbling a basketball, my mom called the cops
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:30 pm to fr33manator
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A Think it’s kind of funny how a man can employ decent, hardworking blacks. Treat them as equals. How he would think nothing of helping out his fellow man, regardless of color, in a time of true need.
A man hiring help to make money for his business.
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But if he uses a certain word in private to describe the trashy, ignorant subset of a culture, the one that takes no responsibility and destroys their environment, and holds them in the same disdain he holds white trash, he’s the most virulent racist ever.
Your words. Calling them n****** isn’t the most racist thing in the world, but it’s pretty low key closet racist. Just because he hired other black people to help him make money doesn’t change that.
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But if some crazy bitch treats blacks like they are incapable of taking care of themselves, is paternalistic in her lowered expectations, and in her heart of hearts thinks that they need her white wisdom to better themselves, she’s supposed to be some godsend. Even though she only works to keep them in submission and dependent on the government.
That’s called white guilt batshit crazy racism.
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It’s really screwed up how people think.
Your version from your post, sure
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prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Using a derogatory term that was born to remind them that whites are superior is the definition of racism.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:37 pm to High C
I grew up in Louisiana in the 50's, so racism as we understand it today was the norm. I wasn't raised to be a mean person, so I didn't exercise that racism in my personal life. I did however have prejudices that were a result of the environment I was raised in.
Then came the 60's and integration. I was in high school by that time and going to school with blacks forced me to interact in a way I hadn't experienced in my earlier years. More out of curiosity than anything else, I tried to get to know some of the guys in my class, but I could sense the lack of trust they had for me as a white. I was no doubt naive as hell as to exactly where and how that distrust had developed. Then came the day I got a big dose of the kind of racism that they had experienced their whole lives. This post is too long already, so I won't go into detail, but what an eye opener that was. What I experienced that day, just through association with my black classmates, was enough to erase any prejudices I still had. It was in Oberlin, La., a KKK stronghold at the time, and it was ugly. After it was over, we didn't discuss it with our black buddies and I regret that to this day. I wish I could apologize to them now, not for anything I did, but for what they have had to endure from some of my fellow whites.
Then came the 60's and integration. I was in high school by that time and going to school with blacks forced me to interact in a way I hadn't experienced in my earlier years. More out of curiosity than anything else, I tried to get to know some of the guys in my class, but I could sense the lack of trust they had for me as a white. I was no doubt naive as hell as to exactly where and how that distrust had developed. Then came the day I got a big dose of the kind of racism that they had experienced their whole lives. This post is too long already, so I won't go into detail, but what an eye opener that was. What I experienced that day, just through association with my black classmates, was enough to erase any prejudices I still had. It was in Oberlin, La., a KKK stronghold at the time, and it was ugly. After it was over, we didn't discuss it with our black buddies and I regret that to this day. I wish I could apologize to them now, not for anything I did, but for what they have had to endure from some of my fellow whites.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:40 pm to High C
Growing up, Bringing non-whites and Catholics around was always frowned upon
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:42 pm to High C
I grew up in Central in the 80s and went to an all white private school with confederate flags on everything (yearbooks, basketball court, cheerleader uniforms, etc).
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:44 pm to slackster
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His comment implied he's racist because the crime stats say he should be. To me, that suggests that >50% of a particular race commits crimes.
I'm well aware of the fact that most violent crime in New Orleans is committed by blacks. However, that's a far cry from saying most blacks are violent criminals.
Most of the shitty things that have happened to me or members of my family have been done by white people. I don't write off the entire race because of that.
I took him to mean that because he doesn't shy away from acknowledging crime statistics, society views him as racist.
I don't disagree if that is his point. Go on TV and say that virtually all of the random violent crime in your area is committed by black people and you'll be treated like David Duke.
But I also agree with your points, so maybe I didn't understand his intent.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:48 pm to High C
Yes. I grew up in the '50s & '60s. Almost everyone that grew up before the '70s was in a racist environment.
It was VERY racist but unlike the youth of today think it was.
It was VERY racist but unlike the youth of today think it was.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:53 pm to Redbone
I just don’t get how people can still be straight up KKK racist in Louisiana in 2018. Black people are literally everywhere. They must hate everything they do because no matter where you go in LA you’ll find black people.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:56 pm to OKTGR580
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They must hate everything they do because no matter where you go in LA you’ll find black people.
LA 48th happiest state in the US.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:57 pm to High C
According it most of the left I was simply because I few up with a white family.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:59 pm to High C
I wouldn't say I was raised in a racist environment, but there were times when I heard my parents get mad about something and drop the N word.
One day my dad went drop my aunt (his sister) maid off at her house. A few months later his insurance went up and there was something about a law suit that was settled with his insurance. He went there and learned that she had sued his auto insurance because, when she got out of his truck, she evidently tripped. My dad said she did trip, but it wasn't bad. He went to see about her, but she told him she was fine and walked off like nothing was wrong.. He was 3 kinds of pissed off and called her "a stupid ------".
My mom grew up in a rural area, her grandmother owned a grocery store and many of their customers were black. A lot of the black people in the area worked for a wealthy family, who had a grocery store. They were more expensive and when the blacks, who worked for them, went there to get groceries, they would automatically take it out of their checks and sometimes, if people needed more groceries than usual, they would end up not getting any money on pay day. My great grandmother would allow them to charge their groceries so a lot of black families use to really like her.
There was a black lady who lived down the road from my great grandmother's store, who was in labor and the family didn't have a car to bring her to the hospital so my granny brought her. She named her baby after my grandmother.. Who my mom was named after as well. Til this day, that family considers my mom's side of the family, like family.. So I grew up seeing black and white people interacting. For most of grade school (except for 4 years I went to Catholic school), I went to public school that was pretty much 50/50 when it came to the ratio of blacks and whites so I never really thought about disliking someone just because they were black.
I still think it's funny when I see, for example, white people who have not had much interaction with black people.. Interact with them..
One day my dad went drop my aunt (his sister) maid off at her house. A few months later his insurance went up and there was something about a law suit that was settled with his insurance. He went there and learned that she had sued his auto insurance because, when she got out of his truck, she evidently tripped. My dad said she did trip, but it wasn't bad. He went to see about her, but she told him she was fine and walked off like nothing was wrong.. He was 3 kinds of pissed off and called her "a stupid ------".
My mom grew up in a rural area, her grandmother owned a grocery store and many of their customers were black. A lot of the black people in the area worked for a wealthy family, who had a grocery store. They were more expensive and when the blacks, who worked for them, went there to get groceries, they would automatically take it out of their checks and sometimes, if people needed more groceries than usual, they would end up not getting any money on pay day. My great grandmother would allow them to charge their groceries so a lot of black families use to really like her.
There was a black lady who lived down the road from my great grandmother's store, who was in labor and the family didn't have a car to bring her to the hospital so my granny brought her. She named her baby after my grandmother.. Who my mom was named after as well. Til this day, that family considers my mom's side of the family, like family.. So I grew up seeing black and white people interacting. For most of grade school (except for 4 years I went to Catholic school), I went to public school that was pretty much 50/50 when it came to the ratio of blacks and whites so I never really thought about disliking someone just because they were black.
I still think it's funny when I see, for example, white people who have not had much interaction with black people.. Interact with them..
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:02 pm to OweO
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I wouldn't say I was raised in a racist environment, but there were times when I heard my parents get mad about something and drop the N word.
One day my dad went drop my aunt (his sister) maid off at her house. A few months later his insurance went up and there was something about a law suit that was settled with his insurance. He went there and learned that she had sued his auto insurance because, when she got out of his truck, she evidently tripped. My dad said she did trip, but it wasn't bad. He went to see about her, but she told him she was fine and walked off like nothing was wrong.. He was 3 kinds of pissed off and called her "a stupid ------".
My mom grew up in a rural area, her grandmother owned a grocery store and many of their customers were black. A lot of the black people in the area worked for a wealthy family, who had a grocery store. They were more expensive and when the blacks, who worked for them, went there to get groceries, they would automatically take it out of their checks and sometimes, if people needed more groceries than usual, they would end up not getting any money on pay day. My great grandmother would allow them to charge their groceries so a lot of black families use to really like her.
There was a black lady who lived down the road from my great grandmother's store, who was in labor and the family didn't have a car to bring her to the hospital so my granny brought her. She named her baby after my grandmother.. Who my mom was named after as well. Til this day, that family considers my mom's side of the family, like family.. So I grew up seeing black and white people interacting. For most of grade school (except for 4 years I went to Catholic school), I went to public school that was pretty much 50/50 when it came to the ratio of blacks and whites so I never really thought about disliking someone just because they were black.
I still think it's funny when I see, for example, white people who have not had much interaction with black people.. Interact with them..
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making up for steps with words?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:06 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:Look, either answer the question or just read without replying, but enough of this whiny, passive-aggressive bitching.
According it most of the left I was simply because I few up with a white family.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:06 pm to BrownEyedSquirrels
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My environment wasn’t racist, but it was selectively prejudice.
This is a good way of putting it. My parents would never overtly say racist things, but they would imply it. They were trying to be better, but at the same time, they were dealing with their own flawed upbringings because of their racist parents. For context, my parents were born in the 50s and I was born in the 80s.
They were doing okay, but then something triggered their racism again. I don't know what it was, but I know it happened sometime in the year 2008 or 2009 ;)
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:07 pm to Red5LSU
quote:my guess is your first black boyfriend
I don't know what it was, but I know it happened sometime in the year 2008 or 2009 ;)
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:08 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:you mean, employers or bankers?
I still think it's funny when I see, for example, white people who have not had much interaction with black people.. Interact with them..
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