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re: Were you raised in a racist environment?

Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:54 pm to
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I tend to give everyone the benefit of doubt


Good way of living.

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Certain cultures tend to always let me down and reaffirm my hatred.


Makes your first sentence a lie.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:54 pm to
Yes. When I became an adult, i tried to have an open mind. I never talked in front of my kids about the differences of races. I have formed my own thoughts based on my life experiences. I let my kids do the same.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:54 pm to
My grandma on one side was very uneducated and used the N word all of the time. Most of her family was total trash so now I look back and don't really respect her.

Other side, grandpa would tell some racist jokes from time to time, but if he came upon a black person while they were fishing in the ponds or river near his house, he would offer them iced tea and want to talk. He would give them fish and stuff and offer cornbread.

Dad wasn't very racist, but he had his typical southern kind of backwoods views that rubbed off on me as a kid. I remember having a David Duke sign on my first car. Thinking back to one night two of the black guys asked me for a ride home from the basketball game and I gave it to them. They were always nice to me and made sure to tell me not to stop if any body waived me down on my drive home as they were nothing but trash and to avoid them. I would like to go back and tell those guys I was sorry for having that sticker and having some of those views.

One other race memory that stands out. A nice black family was the first one to move into our neighborhood. Preacher man with two nice twin boys. They day they moved in all the baw men stood around in each others driveway cussing about it, using the n word, and predicting the decline of the place.

One night one of the many a-hole kids we lived by went by and dumped trash cans in this family's yard. I still remember by dad out at 6:00 the next morning helping the black guy clean it up.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:59 pm to
Yes I was... and now I'm passing along those same lessons to my children.
Posted by Chuck Barris
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:59 pm to
I wouldn't say so. For reference, I grew up in a small town in Alabama in the Eighties. The big thing is that I never saw it modeled in my home. My parents had friends of different races and I was always taught to give everyone a fair shot without racial prejudice.

My Dad was big on racism being against Christianity, and I think my Mom was really sensitive about it because her father was a very open racist. I don't think he was necessarily any more racist than the average White guy who grew up in small town 1920's Alabama, but it was what it was. He died when I was very young, but my grandmother on that side outlived him by decades and I never heard her say anything racist, which is kind of odd considering she grew up in the same place as him at the same time.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:00 pm to
I didn’t grow up in one but I turned out to be one.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:00 pm to
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We recognize crime stats so apparently yes


What do those stats say?

Is there a majority of any race that commits property or violent crime?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Lot of duality going on



I think that's common in a lot of the South. Kids I knew from rural Alabama would sit around talking obscene shite about black people generally, and then turn into genteel men of God when in one-on-one situations with a black person.

Some will say that they're putting on a "front" or were scared of confrontation, but I don't think it's that simple. I think they wanted to see themselves as non-bigoted, good people, and sought to act that way. Often, the racist attitude was the "front," not the other way around. That's not to say that makes them good people, only to say I'm not sure they were invested in racism/hatred.

In many parts of the country, I think people wear "equal treatment" on their sleeves while harboring underlying racist views. The South might be the only place where (at least in prior decades), people might put on a show of racist attitudes even when they didn't harbor particularly racist viewpoints. Again, not to be used as an excuse for that behavior.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79160 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:06 pm to
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What do those stats say?

Is there a majority of any race that commits property or violent crime?



Not sure what the point is here, but where I live, the huge majority of random, greed-motivated crime (violent or property) appears to be committed by one race. That can make one pretty jaded.

Over in Lousiana baws are always shooting other baws, so maybe it's different. But then, a lot of those stories I hear (on here) are family/domestic type stuff, and not what I'm referring to.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11431 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:06 pm to
My grandfather owned a business based in Mississippi that traveled all over the country. He had all races work for him over the years from all kinds of backgrounds. The long and short of it is if you were willing to work, respect him and the man’s land you’re working on, then he’d take care of whatever need you had.

If you’re lazy, pissing in the wind, aren’t willing to learn, are rocking the boat, a contrarian in general, he’d put your arse on a bus home and make you feel 6 inches tall when he did it. He had a very Woodrow F Call way about him.

Black, white, Mexican, South African. He did not discriminate against race. Saw things more in a hard work and honest living type of way.

That line of thinking was passed on to my father, and has been taught to me as well.

It’s not as cut and dry as people want it to be. There is a factor of loyalty and honesty in play that extends far beyond race.
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1786 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:13 pm to
My great grandfather used to say after a shower and freshening up that he "felt like a white man again".


But that's all I got
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:13 pm to
heard the n-word occasionally since it was just( and still is ) a word.

As a kid we hosted Multi-raced Christian Rock and Folk bands at my Dads church and those kids would stay at our house the weekends of the show.
I had a Commodores poster on my wall
Growing up my best friend was black, he still is btw

Maternal Grandparents had a colored maid and would have her sit down for dinner with the family in the 50-60's

Fraternal Grandparents ran a home based laundry service and washed colored folks clothes


both of those would have been highly frowned upon by decent white folk in the day.
So im guessing we qualify a non racist


This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107537 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:14 pm to
My parents were racist but I broke through. I have tons of black friends.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Not sure what the point is here, but where I live, the huge majority of random, greed-motivated crime (violent or property) appears to be committed by one race. That can make one pretty jaded.


His comment implied he's racist because the crime stats say he should be. To me, that suggests that >50% of a particular race commits crimes.

I'm well aware of the fact that most violent crime in New Orleans is committed by blacks. However, that's a far cry from saying most blacks are violent criminals.

Most of the shitty things that have happened to me or members of my family have been done by white people. I don't write off the entire race because of that.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:18 pm to
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. I have tons of black friends.


name 3
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
51748 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107537 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:21 pm to
i've never used the n-word
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:22 pm to
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To me, that suggests that >50% of a particular race commits crimes.


Not at all what that suggests.

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According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher


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In 2013, number and percentage of murder arrests by race were:

Black or African Americans 4,379 = 51.3%
White Americans (non-Hispanic Americans) 2,861 = 33.5%
Hispanic Americans 1,096 = 12.8%
American Indians or Alaska Natives 98 = 1.14%
Asian Americans 101 = 1.18%



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Inversely, the percentage of individuals in each racial demographic arrested for murder in 2013 (with 2016 population estimates) was:

0.0102% of Black or African American population (4,379/42,975,959)
0.0023% of American Indian or Alaska Native population (98/4,200,658)
0.0019% Hispanic American population (1,096/57,516,697)
0.0014% of White American (3,799/198,077,165)
0.001% of Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander population (6/646,255)
0.0005% of Asian American population (101/18,418,268)


43 million blacks to 198 million whites yet far more murders by blacks than by whites. Hmmm.

Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:23 pm to
I heard a lot of black kids talking about honkeys growing up so yes I grew up in a racist environment.
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