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re: We Should Increase Law School to 4 or Even 5 Years

Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:18 pm to
law school should be 1 year, then apprenticeship. 3 years is a money grab.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70187 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:19 pm to
3rd year is a waste. 2nd year is arguably, too.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61834 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:20 pm to
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It’s time we enacted a practical apprenticeship like our counterparts in med school have had for years.


which ultimately means you will have to specialize in law school. This would be the biggest impact I would see. Not just for students but to the actual practice of law

You are talking about a makor shift to a more UK oriented style of legal education

This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:23 pm to
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our counterparts


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in med school


Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:23 pm to
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3rd year is a waste. 2nd year is arguably, too.



2nd year definitely isn't a waste, IMO.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2234 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:24 pm to
1 year? I could boil my practice down to a semester: Torts, LA Civil Procedure, Legal Writing, Evidence, Insurance, and Spine Injuries 101.

I did cite Lev's Precis the other day, but that was an anomaly.
Posted by swamplynx
Lake Chuck
Member since Oct 2014
1277 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:28 pm to
I work in family law. An attorney in my office may use Lexis for research once a week... maybe. A majority of our arguing is petty shite.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:30 pm to
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This decline isn't pigeon holed to just Law students.

Did someone say pigeon?!
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:33 pm to
LOL I’ve been debating going to law school to supplement my future consulting ventures.

Most of you bunch of idiots can’t think critically about/in business.

What we need is business folks with law degrees.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85580 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:34 pm to
I came out of law school not knowing how to file a pleading or take a deposition. Sure, Pennoyer v Neff is crucial to my livelihood but maybe a little practical knowledge would’ve been useful.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:36 pm to
I’m 32. Am I too old for law school?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:36 pm to
Certainly don’t let us stop you, you’ve got it all figured out.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:36 pm to
How about we just round you guys up, put you all on an island and bomb the shite out of it.

That would fix a lot of problems, worldwide.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:37 pm to
Not at all. Government doesn’t have the best lawyers.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61834 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:39 pm to
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That would fix a lot of problems, worldwide.
most of the problems worldwide come from countries without true legal representation for its citizens
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3736 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:40 pm to
Well this thread quickly turned into a bunch of lawyers arguing that their way is the best way . . . go figure!

Agree with the assessment that the current model is not sufficient, but similar to the way the Multistate Bar Exam attempts to revert 49 states back to a point in time when the law was similar in all states, so everyone can be tested the same, there probably isn’t an ideal way to get courtroom experience. What works in a small rural jurisdiction probably is not adequate as experience to step into a circuit court in a major city.

To that end, I would like to see a local rule adopted by the courts to set a requirement to practice if the attorney has been licensed for less than 3 years.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:41 pm to
This really has no bearing on me.

I do feel this applies to another situation though.

McDonald's associates could desperately use another week of training.

I said McChicken ADD CHEESE

How hard is that bullshite?

Just press the cheese button.

Additionally, if I order a large French fry, the large container doesn't make me feel any better if volume still matches that of a medium fry. That's simple theft, and I will be bringing a lawsuit with my incredibly inexperienced, recent law school graduate, lawyer leading the charge.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:42 pm to
It’s the only profession where you learn by getting knots on your head. Silly.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51965 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:43 pm to
Speaking of Pennoyer, as a 1L who just finished spending around half of the semester in civ pro discussing personal jurisdiction, I would like to know how common it is to actually encounter personal jurisdiction issues for your everyday attorney? I guess it really just depends on the type of law you do and cases you handle, but I’d like to get some insight from the practicing attorneys out there.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61834 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:44 pm to
Not all practices of law need courtroom experience or litigation experience
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