re: Ways to skirt a realator when buying?

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What do they do?

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Keeps sellers from having to deal with buyers.
Puts ads in right places to attract buyers.
Knows how to make legal deal.

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Also I always recommend interviewing agents if you're selling. Find out what they intend to do for you. There's way too many people out there who don't do anything for their clients who give hard working agents a bad name.

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This is some legit great advice right here. Two houses ago I made the mistake of listing with the same realtor that I purchased the home from a short time earlier. This lazy bitch didn’t do a damn thing until I threatened to break our listing contract.

Our conversation.

“We have t had a showing in two weeks. Why don’t you hold an open house or something?”

“Open houses don’t actually sell houses.”

“Really?!? Because I bought this house FROM YOU 18 months ago DURING AN OPEN HOUSE.”

“Oh. Well that’s a good point.”

On a $400,000 house that's $12,000 each or $24,000 if only one is involved. They don't do nearly enough to earn that. I sold my last house on my own and it was simple. I bought my current house on my own and that was simple too. In many situations they are unnecessary.

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If you're buying, you don't pay the commission ...The seller does.

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Well that's just silly.

I'm not hating on realtors, but when they try to spin nonsense like this, it makes it hard.

Realtors and insurance sales are 2 professions Ill be glad to see eliminated.
The world will be a better place.

If you’re buying, it would be absolutely stupid not to have a realtor. You aren’t paying them, the seller is. They’re realtor and your realtor would split that commission. I didn’t have time away from work to know all the shite my realtor caught and it made my life and the transaction much easier.

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You’re buying, you don’t pay the realtor

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This. Whether you (buyer) has a realtor or not the commission gets paid.

Do you mean "realtor?"

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You will never convince me that $18K in value was provided by a realtor to sell a $300k house.

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Noted. But the seller who agrees to those terms with a real estate agent does see that value. People tend to view the world of real estate based on their local market and their personal case by case transactions. Its a big world out there full of moving parts. In many cases those moving parts make 6% a steal for someones situation.

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if you think you're not paying for it simply b/c you're buying, then you're a naïve idiot. If i'm selling my $300k house that I have $100k in equity in, and I want to walk away with $90k to use as a down payment on another house instead of $82k, then I could go the route of FSBO, and sell the house for $295k instead of $300k and I walk away with $95k, and the buyer buys a house for $5K less. But if we have to use a realtor, then I have to sell my house for $310K just to get my $90k.

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If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Anyone can create a circumstance on paper where they can potentially have a scenario that works out in their favor by eliminating pieces from the puzzle. Holy hypothetical Batman applies.

In the real world, the one using historical data vs. hyperbole, houses listed by real agents sell faster for more money than FSBO in every major market in the United States, and sellers walk away from the transaction with more money than they would listing FSBO.

If you buy a listed home, use the realtor who has it listed. They will have to sign into dual agency. Offer what ur willing to pay and tell them to work out the commission. You may be surprised.