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re: Water heaters and pvc pipes are next

Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13456 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:04 pm to
I'm sure Pex will follow suit....It's made of that evil, earth-destroying plastic, too....


The left ruins all that is good in life.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146805 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:06 pm to
Someone just told me the PVC pipes shortages stuff that they heard in Home Depot from a worker. They have more wood then they can stock because no one is buying it.

You have to have oil to make plastic.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162225 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:07 pm to
The PVC shortage isn't something "new" FYI
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:19 pm to
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OT Ballers use copper pipe baw


OT ballers don't leave shite in the bowl they flush it down PVC.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:20 pm to
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OT Ballers use copper pipe baw.


Copper is going through the roof and that market is getting tighter and tighter.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22171 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:22 pm to
Next?? It’s been going on for two months....
Posted by Afrojedi
Member since Jul 2017
473 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:25 pm to
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The PVC shortage isn't something "new" FYI


Yeah, i work for a plastics distributer and this has been going on for a while now. Like somebody else in the thread said its a shortage of resins on all industrial plastics.

Though, one of my vendors that supplies my plastic sheets seems to think that manufacturers are hoarding the resins to drive prices up to make up for the lackluster 2020. I dont know about all of that but an interesting take i suppose.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9687 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:26 pm to
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Its like we are becoming fricking third world with empty stores and shite. How the hell did this happen so fast? Socialism is legit baws


I was walking through a picked over Lowes the other day and had the same thought, but only about the USSR. Decay, empty shelves, disorder.


Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
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How the hell did this happen so fast? Socialism is legit baws
"Socialism" didn't do this. Most of what is happening is a result of JIT manufacturing implemented poorly. Living on the edge works great until it doesn't.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33895 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:35 pm to
How do you keep it from getting cold?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31884 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:41 pm to
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Socialism" didn't do this.


Somehow it’s never socialism or communism’s fault. Even though it always occurs on their watch it’s always evil capitalism’s fault.


Funny how that works.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Somehow it’s never socialism or communism’s fault


Well we aren't a socilist or communist country


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Even though it always occurs on their watch it’s always evil capitalism’s fault.


It's not really capitalism, the systems, fault either.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11811 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:50 pm to
i repriced a project from last year that was halted due to covid and steel/PVC/Copper for that projecgt had increased 20% from pre-covid shutdown

You are seeing part/components shortages across all industries as well causing lead time issues

even sheet metal materials have gone up nearly x2.




Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31884 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Well we aren't a socilist


It’s a very strange perverse hybrid system. The big corporations pay off the politicians to regulate competition out of business and in turn get juicy government contracts. The politicians influence corporate culture and get their competitors out of business with censorship “under the guise of it’s not the government doing this” and have their cousins and nephews promoted and on the boards etc

It all is under technicalities that the government doesn’t own them (though they may be a massive if not the biggest customer and without such would be out of business) and it’s a technicality that a corporation didn’t write the law that put its small time competitor out of business.

Each one can say their hands are clean but they are 100% symbiotic
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:00 pm to
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Somehow it’s never socialism or communism’s fault. Even though it always occurs on their watch it’s always evil capitalism’s fault.

Funny how that works.
I hardly know where to begin here.

If you think that the US is anything near communist, or even socialist, then you are pretty much a lost cause.

If you think that anything that has happened since January is the cause of all this, then you are a lost cause.

Nobody said capitalism is evil, but if you think capitalism is immune to chain reactions of shortages, then you are definitely a lost cause.



Exactly which parts of the global economy do you think socialism and/or communism are holding things up, and how do you think any of that has changed for the worse in the last 6 months? Even the chinese have a mostly capitalist economy, and they sure as frick want to make money.

Corporations the world over have taken "lean" too far, and have coasted on minimal inventories of supplies which have long lead times. Works fine until there's a hiccup in the chain, and especially with a big hiccup like covid it turns into an avalanche.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:00 pm to
[quote]I too, trust cashiers for my economic data.[/quote

Economics, the only profession that makes astrology look like a viable predictor of the future. I would trust the opinion of the guy that’s operated my neighborhood hardware store 40 years on the future supply and demand of water heaters before that of a economist.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27098 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:05 pm to
Almost everything in construction is in short supply. I'm not sure why people are still surprised by this.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9926 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:09 pm to
I just changed out my water heater and it was normally priced.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:10 pm to
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. I would trust the opinion of the guy that’s operated my neighborhood hardware store 40 years on the future supply and demand of water heaters before that of a economist.


That's almost certainly why you have horrible takes including, but not limited to, EV's being 50 years away from being scalable
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
4872 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:10 pm to
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He went on to say that price of pvc pipe is about to go crazy


Bad news for any planned renovations to LSU athletic facilities
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