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re: Watch Thread; New Seiko Turtle Review

Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:19 am to
A real dive watch consists of 2 things in my mind. A countdown bezel and orange dial. But really a dive computer gives you everything you need.

This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 9:20 am
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:21 am to
quote:

If I'm diving to 3,000' IDGAF what time it is and I'm going to have something a helluva lot better to manage my remaining breathing air time than some little 30mm dial.

I think Rolex's dive lineup is funny for that:

Want to go 1,000 feet? That'll be $8500.



4000 feet? That'll be $10,500.



12,800 feet?! That'll be $12,500.



I do want that middle one though...
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:26 am to
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You shouldn't have to put Automatic on it either.


Not all automatics are 150m water resistant.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:35 am to
Mine's to 5 atm, ~150', but it doesn't have a screw down crown and that information is written around the sapphire exposing the movement.


Minus the onion.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72709 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:43 am to
I like it and I'll probably get one.

I wear a marathon medium diver auto 24/7 and I love it, but I do want another diver, and a non-diver basic auto for fancy dressing
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:44 am to
Mine is 5atm 72.5 psi and also located around the sapphire of the exposed caseback. I didn't know if you were assuming that all autos were 150m resistant.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9974 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:46 am to
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A real dive watch consists of 2 things in my mind. A countdown bezel and orange dial.


What about a strap extender?

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:49 am to
Just saying neither it being an automatic nor that it's waterproof down that far matters enough to be on the dial...and all that writing is a Rolex homage of sorts.

Every watch should be waterproof. If you're going down farther than you can hold your breath then you'll likely make sure gear can handle it. It's not something you reference at that time on the dial of your watch.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:55 am to
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st saying neither it being an automatic nor that it's waterproof down that far matters enough to be on the dial...and all that writing is a Rolex homage of sorts


I just re-read your post and realized that I had misread it initially. I get what you are saying now, and agree.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3753 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:02 am to
I'm no diver and I prefer simpler watches. Just got this for office and casual wear and I'm loving it.

Posted by G Khan
the basin
Member since Mar 2007
534 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:17 am to
Seiko automatics (i.e. "poor man's Rolex") are bullet proof, high quality, made 100% "in house" (Rolex & Patek are the only others that can claim that I believe...maybe AP) & undoubtedly the best bang for your buck on the market.

I've owned a 007 since my trip to Tokyo in 2003. It has never been serviced and is still chugging/keeping decent time, but is due to get cleaned up soon as the crown is sticking some. I also own the Prospex "Emperor Tuna" since 2013 or so. It is a beast and is the most high quality watch (case work /shroud are works of art) at under $2k I've ever handled.

The Pepsi Turtle is my next beater watch for sure. Santa may drop one off this year I think. I'm a HUGE fan of this model, Seiko, and the Prospex & Grand Seiko lines. I also wish Seiko would resurrect the "Samurai" model...
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:18 am to
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I don't get the Breitling love, their dials are way too busy


Completely agree. Only one I'd wear is the Superocean Heritage.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80813 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:23 am to
My two faves that I own right now.



Posted by G Khan
the basin
Member since Mar 2007
534 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:28 am to
Love Sinn. Much of their line qualifies as true "tool watches" if you are throwing that term around.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65493 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:32 am to
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Seiko automatics (i.e. "poor man's Rolex") are bullet proof, high quality, made 100% "in house" (Rolex & Patek are the only others that can claim that I believe...maybe AP


also:
Lange
Nomos
Zenith
Cartier
Omega (part of swatch group so take this as you want)
Vostok
Breitling (with new B01 movement)
Vacheron

I think I haven't covered them all. There are some smaller indy watchmakers but I don't know all of them.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:37 am to
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I've owned a 007 since my trip to Tokyo in 2003
Is this just a regular Seiko diver?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27870 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:57 am to
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give you a hint... Air time = 0
Enjoy decompression.



I've always laughed at the ridiculous depths some of these watches can perform.

I believe the Rolex Deep Sea Seadweller is now 3900m or near 13,000 feet!

What is the max depth any human can dive with the most advanced equipment?

I believe it is 120 feet with standard scuba gear, but you've got to do some fancier mixes with your O2? Correct me if wrong.

Add specialized suit and equipment to that? How deep? 300feet? 500?

How deep can the deepest submarine dive?

The water resistance level really is just a assurance I guess. My watches are 200m and one is 150m. So already there, who can dive to 600 feet? But knowing the watch can do that, you know NOTHING I can throw at it can hurt it. If properly maintained.

So step up to a Rolex Deep Sea. No scuba diver on Earth can harm that thing while diving. Clip it to a whale and it's probably still gonna be fine.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65493 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:00 am to
It's all marketing crap. There is a CX that is something like 20,000 feet. Come on

Posted by MemphisGrizzliesFan
Member since Sep 2016
38 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:07 am to
That Sinn is purdy. I have thought about picking up the Seiko Turtle, my OM is starting to get a bit rickety. The Turtle is one good looking watch.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65493 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:11 am to
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The Turtle is one good looking watch.


It's a great watch.


After consulting the experts it appears that Seiko is the real deal. Rolex also. But some internal components appear to be outsourced on some of the others I've mentioned. Mainly the hairsprings. This, as always, is going to be tough to sort out.
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