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Washington State Man Arrested After Fatally Shooting Stranger He Found in His Shower
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:17 am
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A man was arrested on suspicion of second-degree murder in Washington State on Saturday after shooting an intruder he found in his shower, according to the Mason County Sheriff’s Office. The man who was arrested was identified by the sheriff’s office on Monday as Bruce Fanning, a Mason County resident. Mr. Fanning discovered around 8 a.m. on Saturday that the door of one of two of the residences he owns had been kicked in, said Lt. Travis Adams of the sheriff’s office. Mr. Fanning, 59, walked through the building and eventually found the stranger using a shower, and the two exchanged words, Lieutenant Adams said. Mr. Fanning, who believed the stranger to be drunk, the police said, then retreated to his private residence next door and retrieved a handgun. He returned and fired four shots through the shower curtain, killing the man in the shower, the sheriff’s office said. After shooting the intruder, Mr. Fanning called the police. The victim was identified as Nathaniel Joseph Rosa, 31, from Bothell, Wash., a city in the greater Seattle metropolitan area. It is about a two-hour drive northeast of Mason County, a relatively rural part of the state. “All the information that we have indicates that the guy was undressed, in the shower, taking a shower,” Lieutenant Adams said, adding that there was no indication that a physical altercation had taken place when Mr. Fanning discovered the stranger.
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Lieutenant Adams added that, other than an exchange of words, there was no indication that Mr. Fanning was threatened or that Mr. Rosa was armed. He said he did not believe that the two men were familiar with each other. Mr. Fanning owns two adjoining buildings on the property, one of which he uses to run an internet-based business, the police said.
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Washington law specifies that “no person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property.” The state also maintains that when citizens are assaulted in a place where they have a right to be, that they have no duty to retreat. It is the state’s version of what are commonly known as “Stand Your Ground” laws, though Washington’s self-defense law dates back much farther than other versions. “It’s kind of the Wild West out here, in a way,” said Todd Maybrown, a criminal defense lawyer in the state. Mr. Maybrown explained that, though Washington law does not impose a duty to retreat, a person defending himself is still barred from using “more force than necessary. But, he said, if a defendant successfully uses a self-defense claim in the state, he or she is entitled to reimbursement for legal fees, lost wages and other costs associated with the accusation.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:17 am to RedRifle
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Washington State
is Cali-lite
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:18 am to RedRifle
Well this is bullshite.
You can't shoot crazy intruders now?
You can't shoot crazy intruders now?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:18 am to RedRifle
If that guy gets convicted I'm going to have a serious case of the red-arse.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:20 am to RedRifle
What the actual frick??


This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 10:22 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:20 am to RedRifle
It's this generation's dilemma.
Do I shoot the unarmed intruder or call the police and be shot by them?
Do I shoot the unarmed intruder or call the police and be shot by them?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:21 am to RedRifle
Wow, gives me chills when I think back to all the times I took a shower in the wrong house when I was drunk.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:22 am to HempHead
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then retreated to his private residence next door and retrieved a handgun. He returned and fired four shots through the shower curtain
It's pretty hard to claim you are in fear for your safety when you have already successfully removed yourself from the situation once, and then willingly went back in and killed the guy.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:23 am to RedRifle
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Mr. Fanning, who believed the stranger to be drunk, the police said, then retreated to his private residence next door and retrieved a handgun. He returned and fired four shots through the shower curtain, killing the man in the shower,
Yeah. OK. This is murder. Sorry.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:23 am to RedRifle
I'm all for castle law but I probably wouldn't have shot the guy either in that manner. Just call the cops.
Dude is naked in the shower and you're armed. Assuming he didn't try to attack the homeowner, there are ways to deescalate the situation other than killing the guy. That should be an absolute last resort. Someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, yea they're getting shot. Someone is naked in my shower then I'm calling the cops and sitting on the couch with my shotgun in my lap.
Dude is naked in the shower and you're armed. Assuming he didn't try to attack the homeowner, there are ways to deescalate the situation other than killing the guy. That should be an absolute last resort. Someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, yea they're getting shot. Someone is naked in my shower then I'm calling the cops and sitting on the couch with my shotgun in my lap.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:24 am to RedRifle
He left to go get a gun and came back to shoot a drunk in his shower. Gonna be hard to claim self defense.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:25 am to RedRifle
Yeah that's called murder
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:48 am to Riseupfromtherubble
So am I supposed to just hope that the police can show up before this dumbass finishes taking his shower??
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:56 am to RedRifle
I mean, it makes sense that you would wanna shoot an intruder in your house, but the better option here would have been to just call 911 right away and then wait in the other room with your gun at the ready.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:58 am to RedRifle
I cannot back the homeowner on this one. He was in no danger and should have called police for the break in.
This is murder.
This is murder.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:07 am to OldManRiver
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It's pretty hard to claim you are in fear for your safety when you have already successfully removed yourself from the situation once, and then willingly went back in and killed the guy.
Did any of you people even read the WA law, were in the law is it stated he was required to be in fear of his safety, or could only use deadly force in self defense? He was protecting his property which is allowed by WA law, whether it was by reasonable means or not will probably be decided by a jury.
Washington law specifies that “no person in the state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting by any reasonable means necessary, himself or herself, his or her family, or his or her real or personal property.”
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 11:10 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:09 am to Master of Sinanju
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He left to go get a gun and came back to shoot a drunk in his shower. Gonna be hard to claim self defense.
Yep, owner Farkas'd Up by telling about leaving and retrieving. If he had kept his mouth shut it would've been his word against a lot of conjecture.
Further proof to the old saying: Don't talk to the cops without a lawyer.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:10 am to RedRifle
I'm torn on these issues...
On one hand I completely agree with the logic of the "castle law" and "stand your ground" law.
On the other hand, people do mistakenly enter the wrong house.
For example...
I live in a "cookie cutter" neighborhood where many houses have the same floor plan. Two doors down from me is the exact same house as mine. The brick is a little different. The roof color is slightly different. But it's the same house.
My grandma was visiting from out of town, and after her morning walk she accidentally went inside the house 2 doors down from me. And she's old and it took her walking all the way into the living room for her to realize her mistake.
So would someone legally have the right to blow my grandma away for something so benign and innocent?
On one hand I completely agree with the logic of the "castle law" and "stand your ground" law.
On the other hand, people do mistakenly enter the wrong house.
For example...
I live in a "cookie cutter" neighborhood where many houses have the same floor plan. Two doors down from me is the exact same house as mine. The brick is a little different. The roof color is slightly different. But it's the same house.
My grandma was visiting from out of town, and after her morning walk she accidentally went inside the house 2 doors down from me. And she's old and it took her walking all the way into the living room for her to realize her mistake.
So would someone legally have the right to blow my grandma away for something so benign and innocent?
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:12 am to RedRifle
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then retreated to his private residence next door and retrieved a handgun. He returned and fired four shots through the shower curtain, killing the man in the shower, the sheriff’s office said. After shooting the intruder, Mr. Fanning called the police.
Dude going to jail for awhile.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:18 am to HammerheadLincoln
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it makes sense that you would wanna shoot an intruder in your house
Want to? If you are a psychopath.
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wait in the other room
Or the other house.
This guy's mistake was not calling police when he went back to the other house to retrieve his gun.
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