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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:45 pm to
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God forbid we actually ask that our pharmacists follow up with the doctors writing prescriptions if there are ethical questions.




Ding ding ding. We have a winner folks.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29914 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:46 pm to
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What moral or ethical conflict is involved with this? People need to learn to mind their own fricking business.




It is LITERALLY his business. However, he should either sell them to all or sell them to none if he has moral issues with it in the first place.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10388 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:48 pm to
Sure there's a need to follow up with a doctor to verify that the prescription is correct and possible side effects such as giving a drug that causes miscarriage to a pregnant patient. This is not the case here.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:53 pm to
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Cool.

Pharmacists should have the right to deny services.

And a pharmacy should be able to fire them too.

Freedom is awesome that way.



I agree, but for the fact that Dr's can't refuse service to someone based on their religion or morals, just as someone can't be refused service at a restaurant because they are transgender. So how does a pharmacist get these special powers noone else is afforded in their job?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28424 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:55 pm to
I don’t know what the law says, but IMO it is not right for a pharmacist to deny legal medications to legal clients with a legal prescription issued by an MD.

If I have a legit prescription issued by an MD, I have a big problem with a pharmacist withholding it based on his own moral reservations.

This pharmacist should be terminated IMO. And any Walgreen’s policy allowing this situation to happen should be re-evaluated and changed.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:58 pm to
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IMO it is not right for a pharmacist to deny legal medications to legal clients with a legal prescription issued by an MD.

If I have a legit prescription issued by an MD, I have a big problem with a pharmacist withholding it based on his own moral reservations.
thats why it is your opinion. pharmacists have doctorates just like MD.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5947 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I don’t know what the law says, but IMO it is not right for a pharmacist to deny legal medications to legal clients with a legal prescription issued by an MD.

If I have a legit prescription issued by an MD, I have a big problem with a pharmacist withholding it based on his own moral reservations.


So when Shaqweeus Williams, who looks like a drug dealer, rolls into the pharmacy with a LEGAL prescription by a liscensed MD for 100 Percocet and 60 Xanax, that he paid cash to get, the pharmacist should fill it?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:10 pm to
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I don’t know what the law says, but IMO it is not right for a pharmacist to deny legal medications to legal clients with a legal prescription issued by an MD.

If I have a legit prescription issued by an MD, I have a big problem with a pharmacist withholding it based on his own moral reservations.
Scruffy adamantly disagrees.

Pharmacists are another stop check in the long line of confirmatory practices to maintain safe medical care.

Doctors are not infallible. They often make mistakes.

Pharmacists are an important check in the system.

Any doctor or human being who supports what you propose is an absolute fool.

On top of that, in our sue happy society, that stupid idea would never work.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:16 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Scruffy adamantly disagrees.

Pharmacists are another stop check in the long line of confirmatory practices to maintain safe medical care.

Doctors are not infallible. They often make mistakes.

Pharmacists are an important check in the system.

Any doctor who supports what you propose is an absolute fool.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:15 pm to
When you own your own damn business, that's when you can make decisions on your moral/ethical beliefs, until then do as you are instructed by your boss.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:17 pm to
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When you own your own damn business, that's when you can make decisions on your moral/ethical beliefs, until then do as you are instructed by your boss.



unless you are selling cakes, of course

sorry, couldn't resist
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:23 pm to
So I guess by others logic...if a person presents with 5 different legal prescriptions from 5 different legal doctors for narcotics...the pharmacist should just keep his trap shut and fill the prescription?


Yet when the patient overdoses.....the pharmacist then will be blamed for filling the prescription.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Pharmacists are another stop check in the long line of confirmatory practices to maintain safe medical care.

Doctors are not infallible. They often make mistakes.

SAFE MEDICAL CARE, which I think we all agree with their ability and permission to stop the fulfillment of a dangerous combination of meds. That is not in question here.
What is in question here is the ability and permission a pharmacist is granted to deny meds due to THEIR OWN MORALS.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:26 pm to
Way to woman up the argument. and narcotic prescriptions are tracked. no way would your overly elaborate hypothetical go down.
But IMO, yes they should fill all of them and let the Dr that wrote the scripts take the fall.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:27 pm to
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What is in question here is the ability and permission a pharmacist is granted to deny meds due to THEIR OWN MORALS.
Ok, so what do you propose?

How will you make it to where they can reject in every instance but one “based on their morals”?

How do you even qualify that?

Unlike the rest of you reactionaries, Scruffy doesn’t support changing the entire system based on one incident where a dumbass didn’t follow the protocol that was already in place.

Come on. Think about the position all of you are pushing.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:27 pm to
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That is not in question here. What is in question here is the ability and permission a pharmacist is granted to deny meds due to THEIR OWN MORALS.


He is protected by state law to refuse.

As someone in the medical field....I believe medical professionals deserve this protection. This extends to pharmacists as well.

So by your logic....a nurse asked to assist with an abortion has no right to refuse?

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:27 pm to
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What is in question here is the ability and permission a pharmacist is granted to deny meds due to THEIR OWN MORALS.

Why? The Pharm said she could wait and another Pharm with different beliefs will fill it, or he woul dsend it else where.


IDK what profession you are in but i bet there is some things you wont do, that some others would, whether it be because of ethics or confidence.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:28 pm to
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But IMO, yes they should fill all of them and let the Dr that wrote the scripts take the fall.
So, you propose making pharmacists immune to litigation?

That is the only way they don’t get dragged into courtroom in your asinine world.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46185 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Do you support the woman’s proposal that pharmacists should be forced to fill every prescription that doctors write?

No
quote:

If not, do you want them to pass a law that says that they can’t reject prescriptions based on religious or personal reasons?

Please, no more laws
quote:

Pharmacists should absolutely retain the ability to reject or deny any prescription that they see fit

Agreed...I also agree with the store's policy that the prescription needs to be referred for filling.

edited the last part...read it after I responded.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Way to woman up the argument. and narcotic prescriptions are tracked. no way would your overly elaborate hypothetical go down.


You really think they were always tracked?
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