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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

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Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:40 pm to
Well in this case state law and Walgreens policy allow the pharmacist to do this.

Still dumb though cause it wasn’t for an abortion.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:42 pm to
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He is protected by state law to refuse.

As someone in the medical field....I believe medical professionals deserve this protection. This extends to pharmacists as well.

So by your logic....a nurse asked to assist with an abortion has no right to refuse?

You shouldn't unless you have your own practice imo. When you work for someone else aren't you supposed to do as they say and follow their rules and guidelines?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Good.

He doesn't want to help the baby killer in her disgusting attempt at murder.

Give the man a raise.


Joke or not, frick off.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Refusing to serve fries to someone is a bit different than refusing to assist with something on a patient that you morally object to.

Ah, the old fry cook gotcha. Can't argue with that one.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:44 pm to
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You shouldn't unless you have your own practice imo. When you work for someone else aren't you supposed to do as they say and follow their rules and guidelines
there are laws that protect the employee in these situations so you too are wrong. That not an opinion.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Again....you clearly are not in the medical field.


Refusing to serve fries to someone is a bit different than refusing to assist with something on a patient that you morally object to.
why are morals allowed in the medical field, but not anywhere else? It is free market capitalistic economy, people can't just go against what their boss or company owners say just because they disagree with it.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:45 pm to
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there are laws that protect the employee in these situations so you too are wrong. That not an opinion.

but why are there laws to protect medical professionals?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:46 pm to
Because the medical field deals with the actual lives of others.

Not that hard to figure out
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:46 pm to
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When you work for someone else aren't you supposed to do as they say and follow their rules and guidelines?


In this specific instance the pharmacist did what was allowed by state law and Walgreens corporate policy.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:46 pm to
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It is free market capitalistic economy, people can't just go against what their boss or company owners say just because they disagree with it.
You are setting up for some kind of gotcha.

You can refuse an action and face whatever consequences that exist.

Or you can be protected by your contract, like this pharmacist was.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5947 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm to
Believe it or not a long time ago people decided that the value of someone’s life means a little more than changing a tire, serving a hot dog, baking a cake, etc.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22971 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm to
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You shouldn't unless you have your own practice imo. When you work for someone else aren't you supposed to do as they say and follow their rules and guidelines?



Hospitals have rules and guidelines that say the nurse does not have to participate if it conflicts with her religious views, just as Walgreens had a policy that said the pharmacist did not have to fill the px.

So, in this hypothetical, both medical professionals would be following their employer's guidelines.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm to
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why are morals allowed in the medical field, but not anywhere else?
morals are in every field. IDK what you mean by this. This guy didnt want to give out abortion meds(even though they technically were for that, id didnt want to do it), A lawyer isnt mandated to protect a Muslim murderer if he feels it is against his morals, An engineer isnt mandated to design a church/mosque/temple/abortion clinic if they feel it is against their morals.


So i dont know where you are going with this.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm to
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When you work for someone else aren't you supposed to do as they say and follow their rules and guidelines?


Not when state and federal laws protect your right to refuse.


This isn’t refusing to care for someone who is black or gay btw.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Because the medical field deals with the actual lives of others.

Not that hard to figure out


Doesn't that create a slippery slope? Doesn't that allow for discrimination using interpretation as an avenue? Won't that allow for Drs. to refuse care to anyone at anytime based on their beliefs?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
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why are morals allowed in the medical field, but not anywhere else?


Seriously?

Things are a bit different when talking about human lives.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
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but why are there laws to protect medical professionals?


there are laws protecting all US Citizens
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22971 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
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people can't just go against what their boss or company owners say just because they disagree with it.


For fricks sake, read the damn article. Walgreen's policy allows the pharmacist to refuse to fill the prescription.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24299 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
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Not when state and federal laws protect your right to refuse.


This isn’t refusing to care for someone who is black or gay btw.
But why are laws in place to protect their right to discriminate based on morals/ethics?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28424 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:48 pm to
I’m not in the medical field, and I certainly don’t know what the solution and ramifications to said solution(s) would be, but I do know that it seems wrong to me what happened in this particular case.

There may very well be people that defend the pharmacist’s actions with sound and legal arguments , but my guess is that most Americans would think the pharmacist and Walgreens were out of line here in this particular set of circumstances. I can’t speak for every medication and every patient and every set of circumstances, but I do believe this particular woman should not have been denied this particular perscription.
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