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Wage inequality and women
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:02 am
In 2010 the median income of FTYR workers was $42,800 for men, compared to $34,700 for women. The female-to-male earnings ratio was 0.81, slightly higher than the 2008 ratio. (per wiki)
I am curious. Is there data that shows that the average woman, over a 40 year work life (25-65) will be out of the office roughly 20% of the time with family issues?
i am curious that the OT says.
I believe that if a man and woman, on average, were paid the same dollar for dollar that the man would then be in a position of inequity. Over those same 40 years I will see zero days out of the office for reasons that are legally afforded to a woman.
I am curious. Is there data that shows that the average woman, over a 40 year work life (25-65) will be out of the office roughly 20% of the time with family issues?
i am curious that the OT says.
I believe that if a man and woman, on average, were paid the same dollar for dollar that the man would then be in a position of inequity. Over those same 40 years I will see zero days out of the office for reasons that are legally afforded to a woman.
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:06 am to Mr.Perfect
Women want to make the same money and still have guys pay for their shite. Trifling hoes.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:07 am to Mr.Perfect
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Over those same 40 years I will see zero days out of the office for reasons that are legally afforded to a woman.
you are legally allowed the same...
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:10 am to Mr.Perfect
It
is
bullshite
Studies don't account for the fact that men and women often take type of different jobs (College education examples would be teachers versus engineers, non college education would be oil rig workers versus customer service/retail).
It also doesn't take into account that women often take time off for family and stuff like that so they tend to have less experience than their male counterparts.
Even further, men are more likely to negotiate and fight for higher salaries. Women tend to value work life balance and stuff of that nature more so than men. Basically, they are just happy having jobs more so than men.
The truth is, that is women really made 20% less than men for the same job, companies would be hiring them like crazy to help the bottom line.
It is a bullshite argument/talking point parroted by morons.
is
bullshite
Studies don't account for the fact that men and women often take type of different jobs (College education examples would be teachers versus engineers, non college education would be oil rig workers versus customer service/retail).
It also doesn't take into account that women often take time off for family and stuff like that so they tend to have less experience than their male counterparts.
Even further, men are more likely to negotiate and fight for higher salaries. Women tend to value work life balance and stuff of that nature more so than men. Basically, they are just happy having jobs more so than men.
The truth is, that is women really made 20% less than men for the same job, companies would be hiring them like crazy to help the bottom line.
It is a bullshite argument/talking point parroted by morons.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 9:14 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:11 am to Salmon
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:13 am to tylercsbn9
Up vote for you, sir.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:19 am to GRTiger
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Women want to make the same money and still have guys pay for their shite. Trifling hoes.
"chivalry"
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:20 am to Mr.Perfect
Women work lower paying jobs on average. Women change jobs or even career fields more often. Women get pregnant.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:20 am to More beer please
Prostitution
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:21 am to Mr.Perfect
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$34,700 for women
stay at home moms should make 113k a year....i seent the study
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:25 am to Mr.Perfect
Go read Freakonomics or SuperFreakonomics (can't remember which one)...
In it there is a chapter on a study on sick time usage done on a large Italian bank where the results showed that women took a significant amount more sick time and funnily enough, took sick days pretty regularly in 28-day cycles.
Point being, women work less, thus they get paid less.
In it there is a chapter on a study on sick time usage done on a large Italian bank where the results showed that women took a significant amount more sick time and funnily enough, took sick days pretty regularly in 28-day cycles.
Point being, women work less, thus they get paid less.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:26 am to GRTiger
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Women want to make the same money and still have guys pay for their shite.
They are going to wind up with all the money anyway. What's hers is hers. What's yours is hers. Just get used to it.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:27 am to Mr.Perfect
Median income should be irrelevant. What is relevant is whether men and women make the same pay when they are doing the same job.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:29 am to tylercsbn9
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Studies don't account for the fact that men and women often take type of different jobs
Actually most of them do. I'm strictly talking about academic peer-reviewed studies, not the agitprop stuff.
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It also doesn't take into account that women often take time off for family
Yes, they do.
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Even further, men are more likely to negotiate and fight for higher salaries.
They take this into account as well.
Most studies at least attempt, albeit imperfectly, to consider all these arguments and find that these factors do in fact have a big impact in narrowing the gap. But that gap is still there and it isn't really clear why. Some of course use this to argue that it must be discrimination but of course that argument is specious - the reality is that we simply don't know.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:29 am to WikiTiger
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took sick days pretty regularly in 28-day cycles
and most of the time they are perfectly ok...they know they won't be questioned by male bosses about their menstrual cycle.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:32 am to foshizzle
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But that gap is still there and it isn't really clear why.
Oh everybody knows. But if we say it they go apeshit about sexism or whatever
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:38 am to Mr.Perfect
Everything you need to know on this topic
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:15 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:
In 2010 the median income of FTYR workers was $42,800 for men, compared to $34,700 for women. The female-to-male earnings ratio was 0.81, slightly higher than the 2008 ratio. (per wiki)
Either way, this is not comparing Apples to Apples.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:20 am to WikiTiger
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, took sick days pretty regularly in 28-day cycles
In all of my adult working life, I have never had female coworkers stay home because of their period.
Bunch of idiots in here, to be expected.
Oh and men and women have same rules when it applies to sick days and PTO... excluding the whole giving birth thing, which is a little important I would think.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:23 am to Mr.Perfect
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