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re: Wage inequality and women

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Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:18 am to
Unpaid. I would bet in general women have more paid maternity than men do paternity.

And I highly doubt that an equal amount of men take 12 weeks versus women. Just goes to the fact that women tend to miss more work than men.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:19 am to
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Many employers are required by federal law to allow their employees (both men and women) 12 weeks of unpaid family leave after the birth or adoption of a child under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA).


But you agree men usually don't take it right? I have never seen a man take more than a week off after his wife had a baby.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:20 am to
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According to that study, females took 12.9 days off versus 8.12 for men. So what are the men's excuse for all that sick leave?



i only take off if a kid is sick or my wife is sick and can't take care of them.

i haven't taken a personal sick day since i had the no more baby surgery 6 years ago.


at the end of the day more men take jobs that require longer hours and more strenuous work than MOST women (Good Lord I didn't say all.) Until we can prove a woman working in O&G, Retail, Sales, or whatever at the same level that a man is with the same experience and skill set for less money, it's not even a discussion it's just selective statistics.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:20 am to
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Start by talking to your company's human resources department. Many employers are required by federal law to allow their employees (both men and women) 12 weeks of unpaid family leave after the birth or adoption of a child under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA).


Take 12 weeks off as a male for child birth and see how long you last when you get back
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:20 am to
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I would bet in general women have more paid maternity than men do paternity.


I would bet you obviously are talking out of your arse and don't have a shred of proof.

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And I highly doubt that an equal amount of men take 12 weeks versus women.


Well that's the men's choice.

Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:20 am to
I dont think unpaid leave is really relevant. Paid leave is a different story
Posted by PrettyBird
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:21 am to
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Just goes to the fact that women tend to miss more work than men.



But should this justify why they get paid less for an equal job?

Just posing question as that is the original reason for thread.


Does a woman missing (on average) 4-6 more days a year than a man really make that much of a difference?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:21 am to
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Take 12 weeks off as a male for child birth and see how long you last when you get back


I'd be fine, even though I wouldn't do it. A lawyer would have a field day with that wrongful termination suit though (assuming your production remained at the level it was before the leave).
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:22 am to
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I dont think unpaid leave is really relevant. Paid leave is a different story


Link to the extra paid leave women get for having a baby that doesn't come out of their general pool of leave that men get as well?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:23 am to
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Well that's the men's choice. 




Right. Because he knows he'll be laughed out of the office if he takes 12 weeks.

It's simple. Statistics show women miss more work due to a variety of factors. So it makes sense they'd earn less because they're less reliable.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:24 am to
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It's simple. Statistics show women miss more work due to a variety of factors. So it makes sense they'd earn less because they're less reliable.


That really has nothing to do with you making stuff up, but thanks for stating obvious things.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:25 am to
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I dont think unpaid leave is really relevant. Paid leave is a different story


I think companies are put in bad positions when employees are out for long periods of time. Most will pay the reliable ones a higher wage. I work with someone who has missed at least 4-5 months in the last 3 years...how can she bitch about pay?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:26 am to
You really think men get as much paid leave as women for babies in most companies?
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:26 am to
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A lawyer would have a field day with that wrongful termination suit though (assuming your production remained at the level it was before the leave).


good luck proving that

This is Louisiana, I can fire someone cause I don't like their haircut
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:26 am to
i ain't reading all this shite, but perhaps someons should and give a brief synopsis on it.

An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity
in Wages Between Men and Women
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45061 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:27 am to
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You really think men get as much paid leave as women for babies in most companies?


I think he does, and everyone else has to prove their points but him apparently.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:27 am to
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good luck proving that


Would be fairly easy if everything was constant before and after IMO, which is worth about as much as yours.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32715 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:27 am to
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Link to the extra paid leave women get for having a baby that doesn't come out of their general pool of leave that men get as well?


right? a lot of people are talkign out of their arse.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:28 am to
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Would be fairly easy if everything was constant before and after IMO, which is worth about as much as yours.


if you say so
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:28 am to
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You really think men get as much paid leave as women for babies in most companies?


Do you think women just get extra paid leave to have a baby?
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