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re: Volunteer arrested after giving food, water to undocumented immigrants in Arizona

Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:12 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:12 am to
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Aiding illegal immigration is disgusting. Since he loves them so much, we should send his arse to Mexico and leave him there


Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64716 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:12 am to
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I wouldn't let anybody starve if i could do anything about it. i might shoot him after but i wouldn't let him starve lol


How is shooting him any better?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:16 am to
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This seems like something those "small govt conservatives" would cheer.


He set up along routes that illegals take to enter the USA and then harbored them for multiple days.

Ignorance is not an excuse.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:18 am to
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To be fair, he most likely knew they were illegals

I don't think he had this place out in the desert for random locals that got lost.
Exactly.

Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:21 am to
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then harbored them for multiple days.



Just seems like a slippery slope. "Harboring" could be a lot of things... giving food or water, letting them lease an apt in your building, serving them in a restaurant...
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:21 am to
If you are a Christian, pretty clear from the Bible how you should treat "the least of these." Good Samaritan story, etc.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:23 am to
Good. The more dumbass liberals in prison the better.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:24 am to
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Just seems like a slippery slope.
What?

The guy gave them room and board, supplies, and the only claim that he has would be that he didn’t know they were illegals, which is a statement that only a moron would believe considering how this location was known among illegals and it’s location relative to the border.
quote:

"Harboring" could be a lot of things...
He allowed individuals who were in the USA illegally to hide in his home. If that isn’t harboring, then nothing is.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:25 am to
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If you are a Christian, pretty clear from the Bible how you should treat "the least of these." Good Samaritan story, etc.
False.

He should have given food and water and called ICE.
Posted by Cool Brigade
Member since Jan 2018
195 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:26 am to
hopefully someone bails him out, this is insane.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64716 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:26 am to
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If you are a Christian, pretty clear from the Bible how you should treat "the least of these." Good Samaritan story, etc.



Bible also says obey the laws of your country.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69764 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:27 am to
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to undocumented immigrants


#1 phrase that needs to die. They are illegal immigrants. Illegal aliens. Sugarcoating what they are isn’t helping anything.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:28 am to
I see your point, but let me ask this- do you think every landlord that leases to an illegal is harboring them?
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:29 am to
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False


What about my statement is false?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:30 am to
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I would give hitler food and water


you've come to the right place
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:30 am to
False may have been incorrect. Incomplete is more like it.

The correct action would have been to give them water and then call ICE.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20416 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:33 am to
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do you think every landlord that leases to an illegal is harboring them?


Do you see the difference between renting an apartment in Chicago to a Hispanic family and letting three random guys crash in your barn just across the border from Mexico? If you don’t see the difference, there is no hope.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:33 am to
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illegal is harboring them?
If they know they are illegals, yes. That is the definition of harboring. You are willingly giving shelter to a criminal against the laws of your country.

If the illegal is using false information (SS#, names, etc.), then no.

Are you actually claiming that this guy didnt know? Really?

This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:35 am to
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Incomplete is more like it.


What about it is incomplete

(I'll give you a hint, I never said he shouldn't have called the authorities)
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:37 am to
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What about it is incomplete
Scruffy stated in his post why it was incomplete.

If you think they should have called ICE, then state that in your post.
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