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re: Violence among "immigrants" is a harsh reality in Sweden

Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:19 am to
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They have no-go zones in Sweden. Sweden


No they don't.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23142 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:27 am to
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They have no-go zones in Sweden. Sweden. That’s insane to me

They fricked up, they fricked their country up.
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5330 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:39 am to
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I think the people are getting fed up.


There is a revolution coming. You heard it here first.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76189 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:54 am to
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Baton Rouge and New Orleans are more dangerous than any city in Sweden by a factor of 10.
In all of Sweden (10 million population) in 2017 there were 113 murders.

One murder victim out of every 88,496 Swedish people

In 2016 Louisiana (population 4.7 million) there were 554 murders.

One murder victim out of every 8,483 Louisianans.

Goddam accurate statement you made there, sport!

Swedish BRA Link (Crime Statistics, sadly)
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125023 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:05 pm to
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assimilation


Even ignoring violence or culture, this will never happen from an economic standpoint. Asking a bunch of illiterate people who have never worked real jobs to suddenly assimilate to high tech economies is asking for absolute disaster. It's not 1970 anymore where immigrants from 3rd world spots could come in, work in a factory or something and spring the next generation to college. And that's assuming that is even what the immigrants want.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:14 pm to
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I love how people in the South and Louisiana in particular denounce muslim immigration in Sweden and abhor them for "tolerating the violence and not taking back their country"

Yet, Baton Rouge and New Orleans are more dangerous than any city in Sweden by a factor of 10.


So we can only criticize the awful effects mass immigration has had on European countries if there is no crime in the cities we are from? Quite a silly point you're raising.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26234 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:17 pm to
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Quite a silly point your raising.


Agreed. The effect of muslim immigration on Sweden has nothing to do with the crime rate here. Their neighbors, Norway and Denmark, both comment on Sweden's problem. A really nice country with a historical low crime rate now has problems stemming from the muslim immigration.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85558 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:22 pm to
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think the people are getting fed up.

There's a growing gap between "the people" and the leaders they have selected. It's especially complicated by the fact that many of those countries uphold heavy handed economic and immigration policies governed by an un-elected body outside their borders.

Eh, Merkel keeps getting elected.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:49 pm to
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In March, Labor Market Minister Ylva Johansson appeared on the BBC, where she claimed that the number of reported rapes and sexual harassment cases “is going down and going down and going down.” In fact, the opposite is true, which Johansson later admitted in an apology.


Ok, sure, rapes are going up. Increases in immigrants are causing that to happen. I'm just saying it's not like Swedes are walking around afraid of getting raped or shot, and I have never noticed even an inkling of problems while there.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85558 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:52 pm to
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am not going to judge a culture an ocean away from me for finding themselves in the same situation I find myself. Unable to roam the streets of a city I love without looking over my shoulder.


Sweden didn’t learn from the USA’s mistakes. We are suffering the consequences of the past. Sweden says, “I’ll have some of that too” and actively imports it’s own problems. So yeah I’d say we Americans are in a great position to criticize countries like Sweden. If Swedes could take a field trip to Jackson or Nola or basically any American city and glimpse their future, maybe they’d wake up.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43556 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:56 pm to
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If Swedes could take a field trip to Jackson or Nola or basically any American city and glimpse their future, maybe they’d wake up.


Or maybe you should take a field trip to sweden and see the crap you regurgitate is all white supremacist nonsense.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:58 pm to
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see the crap you regurgitate is all white supremacist nonsense.


What exactly is "white supremacist" about being concerned with uncontrolled immigration?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20650 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:06 pm to
Hey,

I never said violence in Chicago is a lie. It’s just not in places anyone respectable will find themselves.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:07 pm to
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I love how people in the South and Louisiana in particular denounce muslim immigration in Sweden and abhor them for "tolerating the violence and not taking back their country"

Yet, Baton Rouge and New Orleans are more dangerous than any city in Sweden by a factor of 10.

Hey hypocrites, I see you out there...


Where exactly does this violence happen? It doesn't happen where they live in these cities. It doesn't happen where they have any political control in these cities. It is very small pockets of our cities and country that produce the violence.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85558 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:07 pm to
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Or maybe you should take a field trip to sweden and see the crap you regurgitate is all white supremacist nonsense.


Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135036 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:09 pm to
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It is very small pockets of our cities and country that produce the violence.



Around 13% would you say?
And really only about...30% of that 13.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:11 pm to
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increased from 4 per year in the early 1990s to around 40 last year.


So, Tuesday in South Louisiana?
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11583 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Italy is beginning to wake up.


Time for Italy to lead the way in Europe with a second surge of nationalism...but without the liberal, fascist, socialist part this time. And none of Italy's neighbors needs to take it further and start throwing in racial superiority again (hint, hint, Germany)--it's about culture, not race.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Marathon, FL
Member since Oct 2005
14749 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Name one present american leader doing a good job stopping violence


Can you imagine what would happen if Trump got on TV and said "It's time to deal with the black men that are responsible for 80% of violent crime in America." He'd be crucified.
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