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re: Video of the massive scale and speed of scaling re AI data centers and it is mind blowing
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:02 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:02 am to Obtuse1
It is gonna suck living in Baton Rouge knowing that a rowdy squirrel can literally end your virtual life.
ETA: Oh, and......Uncle Ted was right.
ETA: Oh, and......Uncle Ted was right.
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:02 am to genuineLSUtiger
The AI data centers need a massive uninterupted power source.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:03 am to Odysseus32
I recommend watching the podcast “moonshots“.
Check it out. Of course the hot topic is AI and the host and the guest are all neck deep in it.
I realize they are selling it hard, but you can read between the lines and get a real good idea of what’s in store.
Of course, there are other podcast, casting the doom and gloom Y2K scenario and those are good to listen to as well to get the opposite perspective.
in any event, it’s going to be a big deal for those who know how to use it to their advantage.
Check it out. Of course the hot topic is AI and the host and the guest are all neck deep in it.
I realize they are selling it hard, but you can read between the lines and get a real good idea of what’s in store.
Of course, there are other podcast, casting the doom and gloom Y2K scenario and those are good to listen to as well to get the opposite perspective.
in any event, it’s going to be a big deal for those who know how to use it to their advantage.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:03 am to Rendevoustavern
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Ready Player One type stuff
and a portal into Inception
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:06 am to Odysseus32
This is exactly why I’ve been buying up as much of the fidelity funds that have holdings in private companies like OpenAI.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:19 am to Odysseus32
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Of course that's abhorrent to many here, but it's not abhorrent to 10 year olds and they are the future. It's not even abhorrent to me, it just is what it is.
First they made humanity miserable, so they wouldn’t resist and would in fact welcome a rejection of reality and the truth.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:22 am to upgrayedd
I know people freak out where all these technological advancements are going, but I'm sitting here thinking we are not going to have the energy to run industrial civilization in a few decades.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:23 am to Obtuse1
We're not going to make it, are we? Humans, I mean.
It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.
It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:24 am to Bunk Moreland
We have the tech and resources to do it, but not the political will. These retarded politicians think renewables are the answer and they’re probably 50 years away from being economically viable.
These only answer is nuclear.
These only answer is nuclear.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:31 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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At what point will they start needing to invest into their own power infrastructure apart from the transformers they already use.
The answer is now. I do a lot of energy engineering and what is happening right now is all the pipeline companies building laterals to these centers so they can have their own power plant. We're also positioning ourselves in the next couple of years for when someone finally pulls the trigger on a mini nuke - its in the near-term plans amongst META's of the world.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:40 am to VABuckeye
quote:I came in this thread hoping to find someone that works in this arena.
Ths is the space I work in.
We do section 05.08. Connectivity (telecom) and also electronic security. As to power, SMR's (small modular reactors) will be the future of data center power but there aer many hurdles to cross before that becomes commonplace
When it comes to build out with electrical engineers and electrical contractors. Is there just a couple of the big boys on the projects?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:44 am to SuperSaint
It's definitely the big players that get the electrical work on the sites. The manpower requirement is huge. I'd say that I see the same 5-6 electrical contractors on the projects. Their problem is that they all pull from the same union hall so manpower (good manpower) is always an issue.
We have the same challenges though at most I need to put 6-10 guys on a site for telecom but once you win a few you get stretched thin in a hurry. Our industry (like some others) is starved for good technicians who give a damn.
We have the same challenges though at most I need to put 6-10 guys on a site for telecom but once you win a few you get stretched thin in a hurry. Our industry (like some others) is starved for good technicians who give a damn.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:17 am to VABuckeye
I'm very heavily involved on the environmental planning/permitting side of these all over the country with all the names you know, and many you don't, pretty dang fascinating. The scale of $$ thrown at them to get up and going is astonishing.
A source within one of the largest players once threw out the following:
One of these new buildings pays for itself within 1 month of coming online.
yowza
A source within one of the largest players once threw out the following:
One of these new buildings pays for itself within 1 month of coming online.
yowza
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:42 am to Obtuse1
And poof, no one cared about global warming any longer.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:51 am to MikeD
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Water has such a high heat capacity and is ubiquitous, I don’t see it changing.
What you could easily do is run a refrigeration compressor (something like ammonia which is very common) and use that to chill the water that cools the computers. Or use the ammonia in a finned heat exchanger to directly cool the air for the computer building. It would be especially useful in places like the southeast with a high dew point. It's already well known how to do this. But if you can with a little warmer temperature then a cooling tower is much more efficient for cooling than a refrigeration compressor.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:54 am to Tigris
They need to be generating steam for a co-gen unit then run through a cooling tower and recirculating it.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:12 am to Obtuse1
I live and work near the data center they are building in Temple. Was interesting watching them have the complete frame up for the initial build and then completely torn down. I had heard that it was an engineering issue that caused the tear down, which I guess maybe part of the truth from what this video says. I do know that there was a lot of work that went into securing the water rights for the facility.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:15 am to Obtuse1
quote:and just like that, there's no energy crisis anymore
scale and speed of scaling re AI data centers
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:49 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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This is going to end humanity as we know it
It's a modern Tower of Babel.
Humans playing God.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:09 pm to upgrayedd
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These only answer is nuclear.
And that is the direction this is going, it's in the video in the last part. Three Mile Island started back up to supply the power for a data center, and another data center was built next to a nuclear power plant in another part of Pennsylvania. There are already plans to build nuclear plants for other data centers. Per the video Microsoft and Google may become major players in nuclear power. The power requirement of these centers is mind boggling. Chemical complexes that I'm familiar with are generally in the 25 to 40 MW range, and with a lot of very large equipment. AI centers have already reached 300 MW and will go over a GW. That's crazy.
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