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re: Video of 7yo "transgender" admitting his mom dresses him in dresses, paints his nails

Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:01 am to
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If she was grooming him to be trans gendered in some sort of sick desire just to have a daughter like the father said I think at least one of the team of doctors on board this case would have detected it.


Are you that naive or you just haven't been paying attention in today's political climate?

Going on some sort of record and saying so would be career suicide in today's cancel culture. Any inclination to suggest it's grooming would be met with saying how much this person would be a hateful transphobic bigot.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by Demshoes
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:08 am to
Can't even watch this stupid shite. I am now willing to accept that there is a portion of society that embraces this sick fricking shite and while I feel terrible for the children, there is nothing I can do so I am not going to watch or read any of these henceforth. frick this assholes.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:10 am to
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1. A mom with a political motivation forcing gender decisions, and POSSIBLY chemical castration (even entertaining the idea), etc. on a child. Confusing their view of the world


Everything I've read that cast the mother in a negative light is coming from the father. The jury, the medical experts on the case...sides with the mom. I'm not defending her actions necessarily and if my son was being coerced into being a girl by his mom with a political agenda and was on the brink of hormone therapy..I would probably choose extreme measures to stop it. but I'm not convinced that is the case here.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 10:11 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:19 am to
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Going on some sort of record and saying so would be career suicide in today's cancel culture. Any inclination to suggest it's grooming would be met with saying how much this person would be a hateful transphobic bigot.


The doctors said that the boy is gender fluid and in most cases the child reverts back to the gender of their born sex. He went on and talked about how it will be much easier for him not to undergo transitioning and explained the issues he would be facing both physically and mentally... so they werent just championing the idea of him transitioning
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:25 am to
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The doctors said that the boy is gender fluid


At 7

Seven

SEVEN frickING YEARS OLD

eta: Let's not forget this has been happening since he was 3. Three. That's one, two, three years. How the hell does a three year old get confused if they're a boy or girl. Here's a fricking pro tip: THEY DON'T.

Oh he's "gender fluid". More weasily made up bullshite to suit an agenda. Again, it's naive to think these doctors would outright say "yeah, the mother is nuts and the kid is a boy, period". They're going to use this spineless response to avoid controversy to be slandered online by butthurt mentally ill people.


Do you have kids? I do, a 10 and 5 year old. I'm sure if I kept telling my daughter she's a boy and dressed her up as one she's eventually going to comply to make me happy as kids normally do for parents.

This is grooming, period.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 10:26 am
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:35 am to
I'm sure having one or more child-abusing nut ball for parents is a very common denominator for kids with this type of mental illness. Effing sickening.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:41 am to
Liberalism is a disease and a cult.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:42 am to
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The doctors said that the boy is gender fluid



He's a child. Most kids that age want to be Spiderman or a dinosaur. The mother is grooming him to be a girl.

quote:


At 7

Seven

SEVEN frickING YEARS OLD

eta: Let's not forget this has been happening since he was 3. Three. That's one, two, three years. How the hell does a three year old get confused if they're a boy or girl. Here's a fricking pro tip: THEY DON'T.

Oh he's "gender fluid". More weasily made up bullshite to suit an agenda. Again, it's naive to think these doctors would outright say "yeah, the mother is nuts and the kid is a boy, period". They're going to use this spineless response to avoid controversy to be slandered online by butthurt mentally ill people.


Do you have kids? I do, a 10 and 5 year old. I'm sure if I kept telling my daughter she's a boy and dressed her up as one she's eventually going to comply to make me happy as kids normally do for parents.

This is grooming, period.



Spot on.

Some coward downvoted you, but the don't have the balls to respond.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:47 am to
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The doctors said that the boy is gender fluid


He is gender fluid because the mother has been pushing this on him since he was three years old.

It isn't a problem if this kid grows up and arrives on this conclusion on their own but that doesn't seem to the be case here with this mother's influence.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:47 am to
Studies show an even higher % of boys than girls after going through puberty lose transgender feelings (not sure if % stated below is of boys & girls or boys which is what the John Hopkins doctor had studied more), but that’s without hormonal therapy. If you really think a person gets a referral for kid to go to a leading sex change clinic in a couple of years after already calling her son a girl for 4 years since age of 3 and also accusing father of abuse by not recognizing the boy as Luna is going to allow hormones to direct a natural puberty for the boy & have an 80% chance of proving her ex-husband is correct you are letting your own political and religious bias cloud your judgement.

If she was getting a referral for her son James who at times shows some confusion to see someone right now & before officially calling him a her and changing name you would be more correct, but in her mind her son is gone and has been her daughter Luna for 4 years. She is just waiting closer to the age of puberty & accepted time to start puberty blockers to have time for approval and referrals for the actual treatment. She can’t risk him going through natural puberty and realizing she screwed him up.

quote:

The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were “satisfied” with the operation “but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change


She also wouldn’t be getting referrals to a program whose business is gender reassignment and just started back in 2015. That’s a little like a pregnant woman going to planned parenthood. It’s not to get true advice on whether or not she should have an abortion or thinking other options will be pushed or provided. At that point it’s just affirming decision already made.
quote:

GENECIS provides comprehensive, gender-affirming care to transgender and gender-diverse youth in a supportive and safe environment so they may live fulfilling lives within their families and communities. Founded in 2015, the GENECIS Program at Children's Health?, is the largest program in the Southwest with a multi-specialty team of experts.


https://www.childrens.com/specialties-services/specialty-centers-and-programs/endocrinology/programs-and-services/genecis-program
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by Pechon
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:49 am to
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Some coward downvoted you, but the don't have the balls to respond.


Of course not.

They want to show the world how woke and supportive they are to these nutjob causes no matter how absurd they get. They want to virtue signal on social media how they're an "ally" for points or some shite.

Deep down inside they know its bullshite but their life is so empty and without purpose this is all they got. Same goes for this so called mother. It's not about the child, it's about her own selfish needs and wants.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:56 am to
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They want to show the world how woke and supportive they are to these nutjob causes no matter how absurd they get. They want to virtue signal on social media how they're an "ally" for points or some shite.

Deep down inside they know its bullshite but their life is so empty and without purpose this is all they got. Same goes for this so called mother. It's not about the child, it's about her own selfish needs and wants.



I'm convinced most of these parents grooming their children to be trans are only doing it to virtue signal how woke they are.
Posted by Pechon
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Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:15 am to
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I'm convinced most of these parents grooming their children to be trans are only doing it to virtue signal how woke they are


Bingo!

Social media has turned "keeping up with the Joneses" on it's head. Now every water headed oxygen thief in America thinks they're a community hero. Activism so easy you can do it in your underwear.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:28 am to
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ThuperThumpin


Also, your response is coming from the Reddit thread.

Someone on the PT Board:

quote:

You're an imbecile if you actually believe that Leftwing LARP'ing bullshite story from Reddit was an actual juror.

That shite story was full of holes and omissions and drowning in animus bias.

The father is not a deadbeat or con-artist, and had a six-figure job as an architect before getting married. The wife wanted to continue her pediatricians practice and asked him to quit his job and become a stay at home dad to raise the kids.

When they separated, he moved to an apartment 2 miles from the kids and got a job with MetLife Home Loans as an Architect, where he still works to this day.


I mean, neither is credible, just saying.

I would argue from the the idea that the only way the father should be ignored is if he were actually abusive. If there's no evidence of that anywhere, what the mother is doing id child abuse. And child abuse isn't ok just because the other guy might be a scam artist or might be a little crazy.

If what the father says is true, this is pretty clear.
If what the reddit person says is true, it's still problematic to say that child abuse is ok just because the dad is a dead beat too.
If what the PT person says is true, again, that is super clear.

I have yet to see an instance where it makes sense to leave the kid with the mom, that's the problem.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:43 am to
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This is a case where the dad would be justified in beating the shite out the mom. A jury of normal people would never convict.

I certainly don't envy the position this dad is in.

If he can't win this one, he'll be forced to either take the kid on the run or kill the crazy wife, he doesn't really have any other choices than those 2. I hope he doesn't stand pat and allow it to happen if the courts rule in the Mom's favor.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

At 7 Seven SEVEN frickING YEARS OLD Oh he's "gender fluid". More weasily made up bullshite to suit an agenda. Again, it's naive to think these doctors would outright say "yeah, the mother is nuts and the kid is a boy, period". They're going to use this spineless response to avoid controversy to be slandered online by butthurt mentally ill people. Do you have kids? I do, a 10 and 5 year old. I'm sure if I kept telling my daughter she's a boy and dressed her up as one she's eventually going to comply to make me happy as kids normally do for parents. This is grooming, period.


I do have kids. I agree you can groom a child to comply and frankly I would not even bring up gender issues or sexual orientation with my kids at that young an age even if I suspected they were LGBTQ. The father says he acts like a boy in his presence. Could it be he knows his dad disapproves of him behaving like a girl. IDK possibly.Read the court documents LINK He appaers to be a very disturbed individual himself and abused the other children so the story coming from him and his supporters is dubious at best. Unfortunately the case maybe that both parents are not doing whats in the best interest of the child and hopefully further investigations will help to guide a positive outcome.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:06 pm to
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If they can claim that a 7 year old can decide if they want to transition.


But a 19 year old can’t buy booze


frick these backwards arse politicians
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Also, your response is coming from the Reddit thread.


No its not.
quote:

I would argue from the the idea that the only way the father should be ignored is if he were actually abusive. If there's no evidence of that anywhere,


Link to the court findings LINK
Children
39) Respondent engaged in inappropriate and hurtful treatment of the Girls.
40) The Girls were good, sweet, hardworking well-mannered children.
41) Respondent forced the Girls to do plank push up for extended periods of time while
reaing the "house rules" until the Girls cried.
42) Respondent would lock down the Girls* room and remove all their possession from
their rooms and would not let them participate in family activities.
43) Respondent would put the Girls in "silent treatment" and they could not talk unless
spoken to for many, many days.
44) Respondent's actions caused barm to the Girls.
45) One of the Girls developed a suicide plan
46) The other Girl was cutting herself.
findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law Page 3 of 11
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47) Based in large part on his treatment of the Girls, Petitioner asked Respondent tamove
out of the Petitioner's residence.
48) Both Girls improved after Respondent moved out of Petitioner's residence.
49) Respondent lied to the Petitioner about the Girls.
50) The Girls have a very good, safe and healthy relationship with the Boys.
51) Respondent failed to co-parent with the Petitioner.
52) Petitioner made repeated attempts to co-parent with Respondent.
53) Respondent failed to keep any agreements made with Petitioner during Parenting
Facilitation sessions.
54) Respondent treated the Petitioner and the Girls in a disparaging, derogatory, abusive
and insulting manner.
55) Respondent is pejorative.
56) Petitioner works flexible hours and part-time on some days of the week.
57) Petitioner was the primary parent of the Qiildren even before the parties separated.
58) Respondent regularly failed to take possession time with the Boys granted to him in
Temporary Orders in this matter.
59) Respondent regularly failed to take the Boys to school during his periods of possession.
60) Respondent regularly failed to allow the Petitioner electronic communication with the
Boys.
61) Respondent lacked insight into how behaviors by him may be repeated with the Boys.
62) Respondent had 3 mattresses in one room on the floor for his bed and the Boy's beds.
63) Respondent admitted he had not slept in a bed for the 12 years before marrying
Petitioner.
64) Respondent admitted he could not recall the addresses of where he lived or who he
lived with for the 10 years before meeting Petitioner.
65) Respondent failed to attend counseling as ordered by the Court.
66) The Respondent will say or do anything to get his way.
Findings of facts and Conclusions of Law Page 4 of 11

I find this fascinating for a variety of reasons:

109) The Respondent was discharged from the Army for "Admission of Homosexuality."
110) The Respondent denies being a homosexual at the time of discharge from the Army.
111) The Respondent lied to the Army about being a homosexual.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:14 pm to
I don't get how the sex change drugs and stuff don't have an age of consent?

Shouldn't they say it's 18 just so they're positive all people prescribed these meds are post-pubescent and are adults mentally?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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