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re: Veterans Claiming 100% Disability
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:02 am to Vacherie
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:02 am to Vacherie
My Grandfather lost a toe at the Battle of the Bulge due to frostbite and carried shrapnel from a grenade. Never filed for anything. Said others sacrificed more and deserved it. What really bothers me are the veterans that aren't combat vets but work the system to get disability. I work with several that are getting anywhere from 50-100% and still are very active. When they brag about getting it makes it even worse.
BTW, I'm a combat vet of Desert Storm.
BTW, I'm a combat vet of Desert Storm.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 10:54 am
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:03 am to Vacherie
Funny - I see alot of fully healthy people claiming 100% disability, SNAP, HUD, and getting free rides to waste tax payers funds at universities.... no one bats an eye.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:04 am to Vacherie
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This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:04 am to meAnon
It’s better than the alternative, which we saw coming out of Iraq and Afghan, in Obama’s early years. They were systematically underfunded for the mass repatriations, people in need couldn’t get help.
Mental health funding lagged, and what we see here is the logical follow on to that mental health funding coming in and programs being built around mental health for veterans. Vets were seen, many do have PTSD—they always did coming home—but now it is diagnosed and accepted as a disability.
As always, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Many leaches glom onto the programs to get free money along with the many who really do need the mental health care.
Mental health funding lagged, and what we see here is the logical follow on to that mental health funding coming in and programs being built around mental health for veterans. Vets were seen, many do have PTSD—they always did coming home—but now it is diagnosed and accepted as a disability.
As always, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Many leaches glom onto the programs to get free money along with the many who really do need the mental health care.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:09 am to Ozarkshillbilly
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I believe you are correct. Recently met a man with half his leg missing and only getting 70% from an IED in Iraq
What year was he wounded? if it was early on 03, 04, 05 he can fix that and get a CT scan of his brain yearly. After 2007 or 08 you were automatically enrolled in the registry if you got blown up.
Its called the TBI Registry and anyone involved in or near an explosion qualifies. 70% for losing a limb is not right and he needs that CT scan yearly.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:13 am to Lakeboy7
Disabled vet classification is too loose to honor.
Purple Heart classification has a lot more substance
Purple Heart classification has a lot more substance
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:14 am to Vacherie
It's mostly a misunderstanding of what 100% VA disability.means versus SS disability we are all more familiar with. There is no requirement to be completely Incapacitated. The VA compensates for health conditions incurred due to service. 100% just means your cumulative issues add up enough to get the maximum compensation not that you are totally incapacitated.or unable to work etc.
We can't sue our employer or get workers comp so this is how the govt compensates for injuries, toxic exposures, conditions ignored/neglected by military docs etc.
We can't sue our employer or get workers comp so this is how the govt compensates for injuries, toxic exposures, conditions ignored/neglected by military docs etc.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:15 am to Lakeboy7
As conditions add up the VA compensation math makes it increasingly harder to get to a higher rating. For instance to get from 90% to 100% you need something like an additional 50%+ rated condition because each additional rating only applies to the remaining percent.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:17 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
My neighbor is a disabled veteran. Nice guy. Seems to have no problem jumping into his jacked up f250 and going hunting and fishing all the time. No idea what his disability is. Otherwise a good neighbor.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:19 am to bad93ex
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I've noticed A LOT of DV plates in my area
Do you notice any commonality of the people driving those? Because I was thinking the same thing on the way into work this morning. Not one of them was old enough to be pre-GWOT, in addition to one other factor I can't quite put my finger on ...
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:22 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Not service related rating, I'm sure.
(different jump picture for people without a 90 second attention span)
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:23 am to Vacherie
I knew a guy who had a power chair, urostomy, and oxygen and was only 75%.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:25 am to Lakeboy7
Not sure of the year, we didn't spend too much time together but I'm guessing by his age probably 04-05 time range. I told him about a group just outside of the base we were at that I knew would take care of him and get him to 100%. I believe he earned it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:26 am to Vacherie
This post is offensive for so many reasons. My dad served honorably in Vietnam but returned home a changed person. He was always a great dad but he had these bouts where he would lose his temper, never physical violence, but would throw things and say things that as a kid scared the hell out of me. I always thought it was weird that he never talked about his time in the service, but evidently he’s told my kids some things and they told me. The gist of it was he actually killed someone and saw a lot of people die. He worked his arse off in life and never ever do I recall him missing a day of work. Several years ago he started going to the VA on his doctors recommendation and was diagnosed with PTSD and was definitely exposed to agent orange. He was placed on military disability and has been fortunate that he hasn’t really had to touch his retirement yet. He had a cancerous stomach tumor that nearly killed him a few years ago but he somehow survived and is doing okay although he deals with a lot of pain on a daily basis. He is the toughest old SOB I know and never complains. I get it that people abuse the system but the vast majority of veterans get the shaft. I’m immensely proud of him and the sacrifices he made for our country and I am glad that he is being compensated for his service.
Semper Fi!
Semper Fi!
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:27 am to Vacherie
It is political suicide to suggest it but someone ought to reign it in a bit.
My son is 25. His best friend from high school joined the Army out of high school, originally a 4 year commitment I think...may have been less, certainly wasn't more. Good kid. About 6 months into his military career he started having headaches...bad ones. They did some testing and he had a brain tumor. Turned out to be benign. The did surgery and rehab under tri-care as they should have,,,he was a soldier, he got sick. Not his fault, not the armies fault, just bad luck. Not the armies fault is key....no one has ever suggested that his 6 months in the military caused this condition...in fact army doctors and his private doctors say it existed before he joined....in fact, had he not been in the military there is a chance he would have not been diagnosed and treated as early. At any rate he is now 100% disabled. He can do anything he wants to, he even says he is not actually disabled....because he isn't actually disabled....but for whatever reason the military says he is and is paying him, I assume for the rest of his life, for that 6 months of service. Again, he is a good kid. If he were truly disabled, and i am not a doctor so he may be, no one in their right mind would question his recieving a pension. By all outward appearances he is not disabled and presumably he is not alone.....
My son is 25. His best friend from high school joined the Army out of high school, originally a 4 year commitment I think...may have been less, certainly wasn't more. Good kid. About 6 months into his military career he started having headaches...bad ones. They did some testing and he had a brain tumor. Turned out to be benign. The did surgery and rehab under tri-care as they should have,,,he was a soldier, he got sick. Not his fault, not the armies fault, just bad luck. Not the armies fault is key....no one has ever suggested that his 6 months in the military caused this condition...in fact army doctors and his private doctors say it existed before he joined....in fact, had he not been in the military there is a chance he would have not been diagnosed and treated as early. At any rate he is now 100% disabled. He can do anything he wants to, he even says he is not actually disabled....because he isn't actually disabled....but for whatever reason the military says he is and is paying him, I assume for the rest of his life, for that 6 months of service. Again, he is a good kid. If he were truly disabled, and i am not a doctor so he may be, no one in their right mind would question his recieving a pension. By all outward appearances he is not disabled and presumably he is not alone.....
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:27 am to cubsfan5150
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Veterans Claiming 100% Disabilityby cubsfan5150quote:75% disability No such thing
There definitely is such a thing
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:28 am to SulphursFinest
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pretty common and not hard to get on VA disability
My experience is it's very difficult. Helped my handyman, a Vietnam vet, try to get disability. He had documented head injury from parachuting with airborne division and exposure to agent orange but they wouldn't give him disability. His head injury did affect him emotionally, he had the emotional maturity of an 8 year old which is a common side effect of head injuries.They did give him financial assistance oif about $700/mo but no one would ever tell me why he was getting that money.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:29 am to Vacherie
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I think some of our veterans are scamming the system IMO.
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Disability ratings are assigned based on medical records provided by your doctor, the results of a VA claim physical examination, and any other relevant information.
So all the doctors are in on the scam or nah?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:29 am to Proximo
quote:He was also busting in her face.
The guy that was busting in them guts and stretching her out before you? Oof
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:31 am to Vacherie
I see "Disabled veteran" tags everywhere in Alabama. Once I noticed it I couldn't unsee it. From beaters to 100k Escalades/HD trucks
Are we really damaging all these folks in peacetime now?
Really nice seeing them in front of the gym. Or watching a guy get out to go play tennis.
The corruption is RAMPANT. I know a guy who will get 40k per year (I may be slightly wrong on the amount) for LIFE. He works at the same company I do. Doing the same job I do. Has some so called condition that has no observable symptoms.
That 40k just so happens to be around my federal tax liability every year.
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Are we really damaging all these folks in peacetime now?
Really nice seeing them in front of the gym. Or watching a guy get out to go play tennis.
The corruption is RAMPANT. I know a guy who will get 40k per year (I may be slightly wrong on the amount) for LIFE. He works at the same company I do. Doing the same job I do. Has some so called condition that has no observable symptoms.
That 40k just so happens to be around my federal tax liability every year.
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Between 1954 and 2000, the share of veterans receiving disability compensation was very stable, fluctuating between 8 percent and 10 percent. Today, nearly 30 percent of the country’s 18.5 million veterans receive it.
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Additionally, the average annual payment to veterans receiving disability has increased substantially, from about $12,000 in 2000 to $21,000 today. This growth has been driven by a shift to much higher disability ratings since payments are higher for those who are found to be more disabled.
From 2000 to 2022, the number of disability compensation recipients with a rating of 70 percent or more increased by 7-fold (from 0.34 million to 2.66 million) while the number with a rating of just 10 or 20 percent hardly changed (from 1.23 million to 1.30 million). This rating system used by the VA encourages disability compensation recipients to apply for increases in their ratings and may discourage some from improving their health.
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With total annual disability compensation expenditures increasing from $28 billion to $112 billion, VA spending on the program is now 83 percent as large as for Social Security Disability Insurance, the largest federal disability program that insures 10 times as many adults. Moreover, since veterans who receive disability compensation benefits have increased eligibility for the VA’s health care services, the program’s rise in enrollment has simultaneously contributed to substantial increases in health care spending by the VA (the other main category of the VA’s budget).
In comparison, annual VA spending on education benefits such as the GI Bill is just $10 billion, and annual spending on veteran readiness and employment, a program designed to help veterans with service-connected disabilities obtain stable and suitable employment, is only $1.5 billion.
The primary driver of the growth in disability compensation enrollment has been a series of regulatory and policy changes over the past two decades (including most recently the 2022 PACT Act) that have made it steadily easier for veterans to apply for and qualify for disability benefits for a broader set of medical conditions. As a result of these changes, nearly 40 percent of veterans who served in 1990 or later receive disability compensation benefits.
While one might attribute these high rates of disability compensation receipt to improved battlefield medicine and the long-term effects of combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, recent research suggests otherwise.
Veterans who enlisted since 2010 have some of the highest rates of disability compensation enrollment even though they were significantly less likely to deploy and faced a substantially lower risk of injury while deployed — only 1 percent of Army service members who enlisted between 2010 and 2015 were wounded in combat.
Considering how much easier it has become to qualify for disability benefits, it is perhaps unsurprising that 5,000 pilots who passed their Federal Aviation Administration physicals are now under investigation for receiving veterans’ disability benefits for conditions that should disqualify them from the cockpit.
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