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re: Vehicle prices are still out of control

Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
20301 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:32 pm to
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Honest question, what does someone do and how much do they make to afford a $100K plus vehicle?

Finance bro.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16284 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:30 pm to
Recently dropped a nice chunk for repairs to my paid off retirement vehicle. No way on planet earth would I purchase such a thing...our home - purchased in 1990 was much cheaper
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
20191 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 12:08 am to
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Finance bro.


I finance everything Have to work those interest rates and live a little.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38912 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:49 am to
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Now we’ve got tarriffs on the competition, so there is. no reason to expect them to drop down again.
“Tariffs on the competition”? You realize Ford and Chevy pay them too, right? Over 60% of an F-150’s parts comes from outside the U.S. For a Silverado, it’s over 70%. Slapping a big 3 emblem on the grill doesn’t exempt the supply chain from tariffs..
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
62187 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:53 am to
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I finance everything Have to work those interest rates and live a little.
100% agree.

Interest is just the price of having it now.
Posted by Raging Tiger
Teedy Town
Member since Jun 2023
1712 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:57 am to
My wife’s 24’ Rav4 was 40k

My 26’ Camry was 31k (base package)


Not the nicest, but feel blessed to have them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96768 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:54 am to
quote:

This seems insane to me. I make around $20,000/month and my truck note is $600 and my wife’s car is paid off, I can’t imagine bringing home $4,000ish/month and spending $2,000 of that on cars


You misunderstood. A person making $4k a month should have no more than $24k in cars. Total. The note is just a financing decision.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8928 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:11 am to
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My wife’s 24’ Rav4 was 40k

My 26’ Camry was 31k (base package)


You got two vehicles that should serve you well for 10 years or more if you keep them.

I have two 20+ year old Toyotas, a Camry and a Tundra. Paid cash for the Tundra, inherited the Camry. Both run great, both are cheap to maintain. Both crank when I turn the key and both blow cold (all original AC). The wife has a newer and nicer Volvo, but we use the old Toyotas the most. Spending lots of money on a depreciating asset or interest is not something I like to do.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
13542 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:16 am to
I haven’t had a car note in 20+ years. Yall have fun going to work in a car that you have to go to work to pay for.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
86366 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:40 am to
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Raptors and especially Raptor Rs are going for like $20k-$30k over MSRP.


Regular Raptors are MSRP. I just bought one in July. Rs sticker for $115K and dealers mark them up by $30k. I would’ve paid MSRP for the R and I even offered $6k over, but frick paying dealer markup. Very happy with my regular Raptor.
Posted by baxter12
BATON ROUGE
Member since Nov 2012
565 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:48 am to
Wife drives a 2024 Tahoe we had a 2020 Acadia Denali with not even 30k miles we traded in then. Made the decision based on where prices were going, Acadia was paid for made a 8-10 year decision on vehicle.

I drive a small suv , its a company car and can use it for personal use. All expenses paid I will drive it proudly.
No way if I had 2 notes would I be driving a truck are SUV. Just wouldn’t be responsible
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1248 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:28 am to
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“Tariffs on the competition”? You realize Ford and Chevy pay them too, right? Over 60% of an F-150’s parts comes from outside the U.S. For a Silverado, it’s over 70%. Slapping a big 3 emblem on the grill doesn’t exempt the supply chain from tariffs..


All cars and trucks are globally sourced now from the same top 30 or so global suppliers. The most American content vehicle you can buy, the Tesla Model 3 Performance, is only 75% US sourced parts. F150s are a mix depending on options, can be up to 60% US parts or as low as 24% (Lightning).

FWIW, of all automakers, Ford employs the most people in CONUS. IIRC GM is second, and one of either Toyota or Honda is 3rd. May be wrong on #3 but you needed a HW assignment.

WRT to tariffs, the main focus has been on assembled vehicles for two reasons:
1. There is presently a ruinous price war going on between the 100+ Chinese OEMs that will probably leave no more that 2-3 of them standing. Any market that doesn't block that spillover will end up with a massive junkyard of cars from long gone OEMs in 10 years and no domestic production to speak of.

2. The Euros charge a higher tariff on a Mercedes made in Alabama than they do on Chinese vehicles made in China, which has needed correcting for decades.

Some key parts such as electronic control modules are being forced back onshore via tariffs and other regulations to avoid things like Chinese SW backdoors in US vehicles. Other parts chains are gradually being pushed back here because we're going to need the jerbs when AI puts all of you out of work.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
20191 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 9:04 am to
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All cars and trucks are globally sourced now from the same top 30 or so global suppliers. The most American content vehicle you can buy, the Tesla Model 3 Performance, is only 75% US sourced parts. F150s are a mix depending on options, can be up to 60% US parts or as low as 24% (Lightning).


I’ve got a 23 Tesla MP3 and it’s a great little daily driver. It’s my company car so I don’t pay insurance but have to pay the note which I get most of it covered with my car package. I’m about to pay it off and bank that money for the next 5 to 6 years and use it for a down payment for another one. My company car is the one I keep 8-10 years.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
86366 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 9:43 am to
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I have two 20+ year old Toyotas, a Camry and a Tundra.


That’s not fun
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3560 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 12:45 pm to
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finance everything Have to work those interest rates and live a little.


I’m a big fan of borrowing money. I don’t pay for anything up front if I can help it.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3347 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:39 pm to
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Regular Raptors are MSRP. I just bought one in July. Rs sticker for $115K and dealers mark them up by $30k. I would’ve paid MSRP for the R and I even offered $6k over, but frick paying dealer markup. Very happy with my regular Raptor.
I've had 4 v6 raptors and have never thought "boy this thing really needs another 250hp" TBH I don't think the v6 raptors have enough brakes having owned a lot of sports cars. I can't imagine the R.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
86366 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 3:42 pm to
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I've had 4 v6 raptors and have never thought "boy this thing really needs another 250hp" TBH I don't think the v6 raptors have enough brakes having owned a lot of sports cars. I can't imagine the R.


An R would be fun, but yeah they’re so expensive and impractical. I imagine the maintenance costs are high and I know they only get about 10mpg on premium. Crazy to think people are spending $50k more than a regular Raptor. I’m thankful the dealer rejected my $121k offer.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Great Price


For them, lol
Posted by Coldcushcush
Member since Jul 2022
285 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 3:54 pm to
you'll just have to put up with Trumps economy. some say he's worth it. besides, he'll fix everyithing in 2 weeks. prices, inflation, iran war, nonloyal allies that are cheating us, etc. north korea and russia are there to help us.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
8216 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 4:19 pm to
Best American P/U trucks were made between 2000-2006. The vortec engine by Chevy was very reliable
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 4:28 pm
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