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re: Val Kilmer Tongue/Throat Cancer

Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:25 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:25 am to
quote:

There is no "possibly" about it. 1/3rd of non-smoking tongue/op/esophogeal cancers are secondary to HPV infection.
So 1/3 does not qualify as "possibly"?
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4546 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:25 am to
I'm not so sure about that either. Why would they just get it orally? HPV also causes penile cancer. I have no doubt I've been exposed but I have refrained from yodeling and no problems with jim and the twins. Just playing it safe now. Wife not happy with my decision though. Articles like Michael Douglas and Val Kilmer make me refrain more. I'm not ready to die over it.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23349 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:30 am to
quote:

So 1/3 does not qualify as "possibly"?


The OP's context made it seem like:

"H&N cancers are possibly tied to HPV." Which is not a possibility, but a fact.

But I get your point. a 33% chance, by definition, is "possibly".

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:31 am to
Oh I see what you mean.. wasn't trying to be a smartass.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60075 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:35 am to
In the news it seems like this disease only affects white guys, was hpv invented by the government to eliminate white males??
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12580 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:36 am to
I had squamous cell on side of tongue at age 34. Was a non smoker. Dentist first noticed. Was treated at MD Anderson. That was 18 years ago. I've asked current physician about potential relationship to HPV and was told that it was unlikely as HPV-related cancers typically appear on base of tongue.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85467 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:37 am to
I love eating pussy
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38451 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:42 am to
This is why I only lick 18 year old pssy.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4546 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:51 am to
That's probably the riskiest kind.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35645 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Looks like another casualty to consuming contaminated clams. Is anyone altering their oral habits due to the rise in oral cancer statistics possibly due to HPV?


wasn't he a smoker?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22313 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:25 pm to
The HPV vaccine is more dangerous than getting cancer. This is one vaccine that needs to die/go away.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17968 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:25 pm to
It's too late for me but oh well.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:29 pm to
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Because they sexualize HPV
not trying to be a douche, but how else does one contract HPV
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28132 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

not trying to be a douche, but how else does one contract HPV


I think that is the only way. I think what he is saying though is sexualizing HPV is making it sound negative. I know people don't want to think of their kids having sex, but it is going to happen. Best to have them protected from Cervical cancer and Head and Neck cancers if possible. Not all are caused by HPV, but some are.

My mom died from cervical cancer. She asked my gf's girls to get vaccinated and they did. I also asked my best friend who has a boy and girl and they were both vaccinated. Yes some have died from side effects, but nothing is 100% safe. You have to weigh the bad with the good and make a decision. Sorry but if I knew my mom could have taken a vaccine when she was a girl and that could have saved her life, that would be a no brainer. I had to watch her die and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I can only think of a few other ways to die that could compare, ALS, etc.

Some people also are against vaccines. I don't get that but to each his/her own.
Posted by tiger rag 93
KCMO
Member since Oct 2007
3190 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

not trying to be a douche, but how else does one contract HPV


That is how you get it. But my point is that parents don't get their kids vaccinated because they think "Oh gee, my little Sally isn't having sex she's only 12". Well no shite your kid probably isn't having sex now, but she will in the future and getting vaccinated now is the only way to protect her in the future.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted by tiger rag 93
KCMO
Member since Oct 2007
3190 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Weaver


Read my mind
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28132 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Read my mind


I don't have my own children, but my friends that do I plan on having a discussion with them about this. Sometimes it is good to hear another opinion.

I can honestly say before my mom got cancer in 04, that other than my godmother getting cancer, my family was cancer free. I knew of it obviously but once my mom got cancer, for whatever reason, I became more aware of it and did a lot of research and still do to a certain extent. The other thing I have become is paranoid. I still believe that I will die from cancer, but that isn't a stretch if you see the statistics that in the future, 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women will get cancer. Depending on what you get and when you catch it will decide if you can beat it or not. I am not a very religious person, but I prayed my arse off when my mom found out she got cancer and then when it returned and was terminal, I was just beside myself. I hope a cure is found soon and that we won't have to worry about this. I am 42 so hopefully in my lifetime.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5559 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:49 pm to
He's still your huckleberry.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30389 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:43 pm to
I have an annual physical Friday, how should I bring this up to my Dr.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12043 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:05 pm to
Kilmer is an avowed Christian Science guy. I wonder how this will play into his treatment. If I remember correctly, his ilk won't even take Tylenol.
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