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re: USAF Raptors perform "Elephant Walk"

Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:16 pm to
That's pretty badass.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:26 pm to
That’s cool as shite.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:28 pm to
I've often wondered the comparison between that unit and the eurofighter.

The eurofighter is just a damn good dog fighter.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:41 pm to
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I've often wondered the comparison between that unit and the eurofighter.

The eurofighter is just a damn good dog fighter.



It would be interesting. For all of the F-22's maneuverability and power, its main weapon is its stealth. When used ideally, the F-22 can operate 100% radio silent. It emits no signal that lets an enemy know its there and reflects almost no signal if you hit it with radar. It's much the same concept that submarines operate on: stay quiet and reflect as little energy as possible. It can let the big AWACS and JSTARS type planes hang back at a safe distance and use their powerful radars to pick out and identify airborne targets from long range. Those planes, in turn, can use encrypted broadcasts to disseminate their information to the F-22s in the area which are just flying around listening and being all stealthy like. The F-22s, in turn, can set up their attack using the information broadcast by other less stealthy aircraft. The first indication you have that an F-22 is in your area might be when a new radar signature pops up out of nowhere as the F-22's bay opens and drops an air to air missile. The new signature stays visible for only a few seconds because that's all it takes for the F-22 to open its bay, eject ordnance, and close its bay. Then you're fighting for your life trying to shake a missile while the ghost that fired it at you is moving away from the last place you saw it and setting up its next attack as you try not to die from the first one.

If that doesn't work for the F-22, then it can go active and light you up with its radar and use its power and maneuverability against you.

It's certainly a fun question because, as you said, the Eurofighter is an EXTREMELY capable aircraft.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:42 pm to
China wanting to poke the bear

We would crush them.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:45 pm to
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if we're launching F-18s like that in a real situation, we're in a world of shite aren't we?


someone is
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Well, that term has evolved since WW2. ?





Or has it?
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:59 pm to
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been on that runway a few times


F.O.D. walks huh....... romantic interlude with the Wing King’s daughter?
LOL

As to the OP .... a true Elephant Walk begins and ends with those conducted at Lakenheath in the late 80’s..... 80 plus F-model Varks say “Hold my beer Raptors”
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:02 pm to
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If that doesn't work for the F-22, then it can go active and light you up with its radar and use its power and maneuverability against you.

It's certainly a fun question because, as you said, the Eurofighter is an EXTREMELY capable aircraft.





But the biggest thing for me to consider, is that at any point I would imagine we have the Brits there with us. I also Imagine That from a support aspect just having our aircraft in the air feeding information to the British in their eurofighters is going to basically make the air the place where no enemy wants to be.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:03 pm to
Those gifs give me chills. It's pretty difficult to understate just how deadly one of those Raptors are.
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Posted by Junky
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 6:32 am to
To show just how far in advance we are compared to other countries. The F-22 entered service in 2005. The Eurofighter in 2003. Now, I am not knocking the Eurofighter, as these two have different missions. The Raptor will not really be challenged, in numbers (as in other nation's strength in 5th gen fighters), for at least another 10-20 years.

The nasty part is, we are already developing something even deadlier called a 6th gen. That technology is probably already flying and being put to testing. America has 3 separate companies working on concepts. The variable cycle engine has peaked my interest. I've got to imagine the next generation of fighters will be some sort of human/drone hybrid concept, or just straight up drone tech.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 7:50 am to
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AWACS


Imo the most important plane.


However, aren't the F-35's now capable of relaying real-time information to other planes?
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:02 am to
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I've got to imagine the next generation of fighters will be some sort of human/drone hybrid concept, or just straight up drone tech.


In order to allow the aircraft to reach their engineered potential, wouldn't they have to be drone?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:04 am to
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The variable cycle engine has peaked my interest.


Will that engine be able to fly planes over mountain piques?
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by Eric Stratton
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:25 am to
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They're not practicing and training for that. This was a PR event.
Did it during Desert Storm plenty.
Posted by Mac
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:34 am to
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The first indication you have that an F-22 is in your area might be when a new radar signature pops up out of nowhere as the F-22's bay opens and drops an air to air missile. The new signature stays visible for only a few seconds because that's all it takes for the F-22 to open its bay, eject ordnance, and close its bay. Then you're fighting for your life trying to shake a missile while the ghost that fired it at you is moving away from the last place you saw it and setting up its next attack as you try not to die from the first one.


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Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:38 am to
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The new signature stays visible for only a few seconds b


don't think it's that long, more like milliseconds is what a Raptor driver told me
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:40 am to
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In order to allow the aircraft to reach their engineered potential, wouldn't they have to be drone?




Not a lot of aircraft built since the 50s can't exceed human limits

But yes.
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