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re: US Woman's Soccer Team files wage suit

Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:42 am to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:42 am to
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You serious? It makes complete sense.


Really?

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Success on the field has nothing to do with how much they are worth.


Apply that to any male professional athlete, and tell me if that still makes sense in your head.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:43 am to
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Apply that to any male professional athlete, and tell me if that still makes sense in your head.




Apples to oranges. US team members are paid the same. I doubt all these women are getting paid the same in WMLS
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:44 am to
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Apply that to any male professional athlete, and tell me if that still makes sense in your head.



Someone already did.

The Arizona Rattlers are dominant in the Arena Football League and won the championship 3 years in a row from 2012-2014. No current NFL team comes close to their dominance. They are relatively better than almost every, if not every NFL team. They obviously put a better product on the field than the these NFL teams and should be paid more.

Just because they are better relatively, doesn't mean it's a better product or that they should be paid more. Pay has always been tied more to money generated, not success on the field.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:44 am to
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Apples to oranges. US team members are paid the same. I doubt all these women are getting paid the same in WMLS


Uh, what?

You people...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:44 am to
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Apply that to any male professional athlete, and tell me if that still makes sense in your head.
Are you slow? Comparing an NFL player to another NFL player is within the same sport. So of course teams will pay the better player more.


Womens soccer is not Mens soccer

One brings in waaaaaaaaaay more money


So you think the WNBA MVP should make more then someone like Klay Thompson?

That is what you are arguing
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:45 am to
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Uh, what?

You people...



You're getting worked in this thread. Time for a site crash
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:46 am to
It is official,

Rummel thinks Maya Moore should make more than Chris Paul

Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:46 am to
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Rummel thinks Maya Moore should make more than Chris Paul


No, never said that.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:46 am to
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Among the numbers cited in the EEOC filing are that the women would earn $99,000 each if they won 20 friendlies, the minimum number they are required to play in a year. But the men would likely earn $263,320 each for the same feat, and would get $100,000 even if they lost all 20 games. Additionally, the women get paid nothing for playing more than 20 games, while the men get between $5,000 and $17,625 for each game played beyond 20.


Its the entertainment business. This aint an office environment. It doesnt work like that.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:46 am to
Don't like the pay get a different job.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32377 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:47 am to
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Using your argument, should those in the military not get paid for their service, and just be happy with being proud to serve their country?


They probably already make more than a private in the army. No idea though.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67249 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:47 am to
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quote:

Rummel thinks Maya Moore should make more than Chris Paul



No, never said that.


ok..ok..ok

Rummel thinks Maya Moore should make = amount as Chris Paul.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:49 am to
US Soccer Federation brought in $76.5M in 2014 and $65M in 2013

They profited $4M after all expenses
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 8:51 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:49 am to
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"In this day and age, it's about equality. It's about equal rights. It's about equal pay. We're pushing for that. We believe now the time is right because we believe it's our responsibility for women's sports and specifically for women's soccer to do whatever it takes to push for equal pay and equal rights. And to be treated with respect."


What a crock of shite. There are so many factors that play into this.

With this rational a high school football coach in Graham, NC should be making the same money as Saban? They perform the same job, do they not?

It's about revenue dollars and nothing else.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67249 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:50 am to
USSF Men's WC revenue: $12,892,819 (2014)
USSF Women's WC revenue: $3,234,600 (2015)

Let's not forget USSF subsidizes the women's soccer league in North America. If we want to be fair, let's end that.

Also...

A quick look at the official mens and women's US national team website shows that the mens team's average attendance is well over double that of the women's team. In an entertainment industry (which this is), you should be paid according to the audience you draw. Also, add the fact that mens tickets are far more expensive. Like 2-3 times more.

LINK

LINK
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:51 am to
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The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.


Maybe I stand corrected, but that statement is hard to believe.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:51 am to
Women had World Cup last year, men did not
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:53 am to
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Guatemala, Mexico, Jamaica, etc.


Countries were soccer is vastly more popular as a national sport than it is here? Where kids play soccer as soon as they can run? You aren't a very smart person are you?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32377 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:53 am to
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The women had a world cup in 2015, the men didnt. This is how people to get numbers to lie. Compare 2015 women to 2014 men. It wont be close


Just pay them a % of revenue. If the women's team doesn't generate much revenue in a year, then pay them accordingly. If they go to the world cup and generate $20M, pay them accordingly.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112582 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:55 am to
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No, never said that.
Except you have, over and over
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