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re: US Woman's Soccer Team files wage suit

Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:27 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:27 am to
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The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.
The women had a world cup in 2015, the men didnt. This is how people to get numbers to lie.

Compare 2015 women to 2014 men. It wont be close
Posted by TunaTigers
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:28 am to
This stat isn't what it seems due to the women's team had a world cup last year.

Still I think it has some merit.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:28 am to
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But then, the Women's team is actually successful on the field.




So UCONN's women's basketball team should be paid billions if this is the basis of pay, correct?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:29 am to
Want equal pay? Put an equal product on the field
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:29 am to
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Still I think it has some merit.

No, it doesnt.






Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:30 am to
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So UCONN's women's basketball team should be paid billions if this is the basis of pay, correct?


Well, that's a bad argument, as no college athletes get paid...
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:30 am to
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The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.


That makes this a more interesting argument. I would have thought that even with the women's team success, the men's team would be far more profitable. I wonder if these USSF financial report number really tell the whole story on the financial difference between men's and women's soccer? I doubt it.

I remember reading something about the difference in money generated by the men's WC and the women's WC. The men's winner wins like $35 million and the women's winner wins $2 million. All the men's participants, even if you don't make it out of group stage, earn WAY more than the women's champion and it is because of the vast difference in profitability of the two tournaments. FIFA isn't just giving money away for the hell of it.

ETA: saw people above pointing out that 2015 was a WC year for the women and not the men. I'm sure that explains the numbers cited in the article. Plus those are revenue numbers. Compensation is usually tied to profitability, not revenue.
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Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:30 am to
If they want equal pay to men, then they should play against the men. Hell, most of them look like dudes anyways.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:31 am to
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Want equal pay? Put an equal product on the field


lol... The women's team has crushed the men's team in regards to success.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:31 am to
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Hell, most of them look like dudes anyways.


What women's team are you watching?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:32 am to
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Well, that's a bad argument, as no college athletes get paid...



There is a forest in the trees that you're missing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:33 am to
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lol... The women's team has crushed the men's team in regards to success.




And yet no one cares enough to pay them as much. Success on the field has nothing to do with how much they are worth.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:34 am to
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There is a forest in the trees that you're missing.


Right. You make a bad argument, get called out on it, and I'm the one who doesn't see the forest through the trees...

I get your point -- you just used a bad argument.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:35 am to
see female vs male model earnings
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:35 am to
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The women's team has crushed the men's team in regards to success.
Whose product is better?

You are basically saying McDonalds is better than Ruths Chris because McDonalds does better against their competition
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:35 am to
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The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.


Not surprising, since it was a Women's World Cup year, in a neighboring country (TV-friendly times) and they ended up winning.

The other 3 years out of 4 though... where's that data?
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:35 am to
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The women's team has crushed the men's team in regards to success.




People would rather watch the men's team lose than watch the women's team win.

That must suck for them, but I guess that's the way it goes.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:35 am to
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What women's team are you watching?


The only one I'd touch is Morgan, maybe Johnston. 2/20 is no bueno, jeffe.

Roster with pictures
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:36 am to
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And yet no one cares enough to pay them as much.


And is that fair?

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Success on the field has nothing to do with how much they are worth.


lol at that one. Just think about what you said for a minute or two.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:36 am to
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lol... The women's team has crushed the men's team in regards to success.



Success and entertainment value are 2 different worlds. And entertainment value is what ultimately brings in $$
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