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re: US suicide rate reaches 30 year high
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:04 pm to Rounder1
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:04 pm to Rounder1
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I have no idea but I would consider less actual social interaction in real world relationships probably plays a role. The price of living on electronic devices perhaps?
That's a good point
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:04 pm to buckeye_vol
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Does the % factor in population growth?
Do you know what a percentage is?
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yup. i don't think "cyber" has as much to do with it as other things
I'm sure its a factor of many things. But I'd think most that report cyber bullying are also bullied the traditional way.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well.... Life sucks, get a fricking helmet!
Yeah but for some of these kids, they are not taught any effective coping skills at all in their home environment. And with social media...I don't see how bullying can just be 100% traditional now and not at least have some part of it be from online sources. Bullies have more weapons to bully with.
So you have kids that aren't being taught from their home environments that that at times life really sucks, but many times it is temporary and things get better and then they are being targeted by other kids...who see an easy target for their bullying.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:07 pm to Black n Gold
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There was a thread on here several years back in which many posters opened up about having suicidal thoughts or actions. Try to be considerate to those people will you.
Who doesn't? I would say most people have those thoughts. We also have thoughts of murder and rage; Do you act on it? No. I appreciate that people have those feelings but no respect for someone that acts on them in that way. You want to check yourself out...fine by me. I consider you a coward and so do most people that actually deal with their problems instead of checking themselves out so they don't have to.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:11 pm to CharlieDay
quote:Most people don't have severe depression or other major psychopathologies.
I would say most people have those thoughts.
quote:You're just ignoring the difference between dealing with an issue as a person with normal psychological function and dealing with an issue with severe psychopathologies.
I consider you a coward and so do most people that actually deal with their problems instead of checking themselves out so they don't have to.
To conflate the two just shows ignorance.
Would you tell a person with severe debilitating migraines that they are weak because you dealt with your normal headache just fine?
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:14 pm to lsunurse
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they are not taught any effective coping skills at all in their home environment.
i don't disagree
the removal of masculinity across society has led to a lot of coddling. now if you want to argue coddling and feminized society is leading to a dramatic increase in this sort of conflict (both internally and externally), then i won't disagree
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm not sure about this. Women are inherently better at coping and have a lower suicide rate (obviously method plays an option).
the removal of masculinity across society has led to a lot of coddling. now if you want to argue coddling and feminized society is leading to a dramatic increase in this sort of conflict (both internally and externally), then i won't disagree
So you may be right, but I have a hard time seeing it.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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Women are inherently better at coping and have a lower suicide rate (obviously method plays an option).
and men don't but we're taught female coping mechanisms, leading to internal conflict that is solved by more female coping mechanisms
males, especially white males, are finding difficulties in discovering their place in this neo-modern society. they're "losing" on education, employment, and all sorts of other societal factors.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:21 pm to yoga girl
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Older whites cannot cope well with no longer being the dominant, privileged race.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:21 pm to yoga girl
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Older whites cannot cope well with no longer being the dominant, privileged race. We had quite a discussion in one of my sociology classes about this issue. So, I'm not surprised to see the suicide rate increasing.
Oh
Emm
Gee
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:These make sense as factors; they are directly measurable and observable. I'm just not sure the more abstract broader society norms and mores are so easy to pinpoint. At best it's a mediating relationship.
males, especially white males, are finding difficulties in discovering their place in this neo-modern society. they're "losing" on education, employment, and all sorts of other societal factors.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:24 pm to buckeye_vol
well i doubt we ever get a serious academic study about it for socio-political reasons
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:24 pm to yoga girl
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Older whites cannot cope well with no longer being the dominant, privileged race.
You're retarded.
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We had quite a discussion in one of my sociology classes about this issue.
Let's guess what your major is. Probably something that results in poors.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:25 pm to northshorebamaman
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Massive increase in prescription meds?
Antidepressant use is high, but some HCPs won't write them for certain people because of the black box warning for increased suicide risk. The FDA is considering removing that warning because they're realizing it was likely an overreaction.
(I work in healthcare/pharma advertising and the brand I work on is a relatively new MDD drug)
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:28 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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black box warning for increased suicide risk. The FDA is considering removing that warning because they're realizing it was likely an overreaction.
As a person who's been on many antidepressants, I can say that a couple have given me suicidal thoughts. Very strange and unexplainable, but I got off of them immediately.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:30 pm to High C
Higher standards of living, more focus on superficial things equals greater likelihood of depression.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:30 pm to High C
quote:But in general, antidepressants decrease suicide rates.
As a person who's been on many antidepressants, I can say that a couple have given me suicidal thoughts. Very strange and unexplainable, but I got off of them immediately.
In fact, people who are prescribed antidepressants are usually at greater risk of suicidal ideation so it's difficult in many instances to pinpoint whether it was the treatment or the thing it was treating that causes this.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:33 pm to High C
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As a person who's been on many antidepressants, I can say that a couple have given me suicidal thoughts. Very strange and unexplainable, but I got off of them immediately.
There are articles talking about why HCPs want that warning removed, but I can't link the ABC News one I found. They essentially say what I did above.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 2:40 pm to High C
I wonder how the stats reflecting the trends of less spirituality or church attendance look next to these suicide stats?
My speculation being, whether I personally believe in God and/or organized religion or not, it has positive societal benefits.
Of course, if true, some would comment about "opiate of the masses" and such. And while I'm sure that's true to some extent, I'd suggest alternatively the result could come from less of a focus on material things and selfish desires and more on peace and helping others.
My speculation being, whether I personally believe in God and/or organized religion or not, it has positive societal benefits.
Of course, if true, some would comment about "opiate of the masses" and such. And while I'm sure that's true to some extent, I'd suggest alternatively the result could come from less of a focus on material things and selfish desires and more on peace and helping others.
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