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re: U.S. States Losing and Gaining Population

Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:43 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15647 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:43 am to
No surprise to see South Carolina gaining

Nice state
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7909 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:33 am to
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You say, “other than some fees” like it’s some small add ons that don’t amount to much. Those “some fees” are literally MORE than the tuition. I have a kid at la tech right now. Tuition is $1800/qtr. fees are $2k/qtr plus books. You can make points about why someone would want to stay in LA, but saying “free education” simply isn’t one of them, and as I said before, it brings into question everything else you say when you throw that obvious falsehood in the mix.
Maybe the appropriate phrasing would be local government subsidies to assist in reducing college education expenses. My intention was to highlight that in Louisiana, attending state universities is often more affordable for your children compared to many other states.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31626 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:36 pm to
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consistently underfunding them


I strongly concur with much of what you said, this however, is horseshite. EBR Parish spends almost 50% more per student than Harris Country does. It is NOT a funding issue. Teachers being beaten up in their classrooms, a huge percentage of students that have never had a father figure or anyone at home that’s involved in their education, siblings that are already incarcerated, school staff bloated with administrator types that are hired based on nepotism, and provide no value to actual attempts to educate and on and on.

It is societal, not a money issue.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7909 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:44 pm to
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I strongly concur with much of what you said, this however, is horseshite. EBR Parish spends almost 50% more per student than Harris Country does. It is NOT a funding issue.


A quick google search makes me question your statement:
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In 2022, the district spent $11,464 per student, but data from the institute determined that $24,000 would be an adequate per-student spending figure.

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East Baton Rouge Parish Schools spends $13,656 per student each year.

It sounds like funding could be an issue for both.

Saying that, I think demographics have a significantly greater influence on academic performance than funding does. I just wanted point out EBR isn’t some highly funded school system like Baltimore.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15647 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:28 pm to
The New Orleans-Metairie Metropolitan Area, which encompasses seven parishes near the city, saw the steepest declines of any large metro nationwide from 2020 to 2023.
The metro region lost 45,000 residents during those three years, a 4.3% drop primarily due to residents leaving Orleans and Jefferson parishes. Each of those parishes lost more than 20,000 residents due to out-migration to other parts of the state or the country.

St Tammany parish saw 5% increase in its overall population
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9526 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:28 am to
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Louisiana's the only southeastern state losing people. Not a good look.


Mississippi also lost people between 2020 and 2024 although their rate of loss hasn't been nearly as bad as Louisiana's. Here's the breakdown of population growth/loss % of each state as well as the southern states that share a border with either state and where their growth rates rank nationally:

4) Texas - +5.96% - 2024 population - 30,976,754
11) Tennessee - +4.01% - 2024 population - 7,202,004
16) Arkansas - +2.48% - 2024 population - 3,089,060
18) Alabama - +2.21% - 2024 population - 5,143,033
44) Mississippi - -0.61% - 2024 population - 2,940,452
48) Louisiana - -1.99% - 2024 population - 4,559,475

LINK

Texas and Tennessee have been leading growth states for many years now. Not sure what Arkansas and Alabama are doing right (relatively speaking) to attract new residents that Louisiana and Mississippi aren't though.

My hunch is that Arkansas and Alabama simply have natural resource advantages and at least a couple of rapidly growing metros in each state (the Fayetteville and Little Rock metros in Arkansas and the Huntsville and Daphne/Fairhope metros in Alabama) that neither Louisiana or Mississippi have to offset their losses. Both Arkansas and especially Alabama still have plenty of declining or stagnant metros in each respective state they're just apparently offset by the growth in the growing areas of each state unlike in Louisiana and Mississippi for some reason.

This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 9:52 am
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18643 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:34 am to
There are good people in every state. It’s all about the area you live. Northern California and the Central Valley are beautiful. Many hard working people and farmers live there. Mostly the kind of people hated by rich liberals in LA and San Fran, lol. Good people and communities are everywhere even if state politics suck. This also applies to Louisiana.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9469 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:35 am to
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Why West Virginia


They were paying people $12,000 to move there in 2020-2021. These people probably are starting to realize that the squeeze wasn’t worth the juice.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293263 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:36 am to
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Why West Virginia?


Coal mining.

Resource based locals are bust and boom. Their future is determined more by politics than markets.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17239 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:46 am to
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Same as Louisiana. It’s a shithole


Louisiana is great if you are older, have a nice pension, and have bank already invested. If you are former military you are in an even more profitable situation in Louisiana from a property tax perspective.

If you are wise spender Louisiana is a state you can rack up massive wealth on your accord with little liability compared to other states. The cost of living is low.







Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22439 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:50 am to
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cultural gold mine


the proper spelling is culcharal gold mine
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127733 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:52 am to
Louisiana has two states (3, if you count TN) in close proximity that have been doing it right for a long time, with shining examples of how to go about things to attract businesses and people.

And we pretty much always do the opposite
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:56 am to
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All the Yankees are coming to South Carolina and ruining the state.
Locusts
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10364 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:04 am to
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We are losing primarily because of hurricanes.


Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida are immune to hurricanes
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4969 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:18 am to
Good

Less people the better imo
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130236 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:25 am to
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Louisiana's the only southeastern state losing people. Not a good look.

We should still at least find out how Mississippi looks by 2030 because the last census showed them losing population like Louisiana.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31805 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:33 am to
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No surprise to see South Carolina gaining

Nice state


Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60251 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:37 am to
Just think how bad the traffic would be if we hadn’t been losing population every year since 1984.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293263 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:39 am to
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These people probably are starting to realize that the squeeze wasn’t worth the juice.


If you want a peaceful existence, those old coal towns are heavenly.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:43 am to
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If you want a peaceful existence, those old coal towns are heavenly.
WV is on my list of places to look for a mountain escape.
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