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re: US Soccer teams to now have equal pay for men and women

Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:08 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:08 am to
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that you now are compensated on par with a team that would struggle against male high school teams.


Struggle? They literally lost to a team of Texas middle school boys, so they don’t stand a chance against a male high school team.
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:09 am to
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Many of them don't even deserve to play for the national team with how much they've shite-talked the country



Before all that woke shite, I think the women's national team was more popular than the men's team some years.

The last 20 years have been different. MLS took off, and the men's national team has gotten more competitive and had a larger fan base.

IMO a big issue with soccer in the US is Title IX nonsense that basically forces a lot of colleges to 86 men's soccer. I'm hoping that men's soccer becomes too popular to ignore though, and they find somewhere else to cut men's scholarships or a new sport to add more women's scholarships.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:09 am to
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Soccer
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Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:10 am to
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A lot of people that don’t even watch soccer are going to be really upset over this

And a lot of stupid people, like you, are going to be really happy about this.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:10 am to
Can someone explain to me how and why something like "commercial revenue share" should be split equally? Let's assume a scenario where the USWNT generates 10X more commercial revenue than the USMNT. In this scenario, the two teams will share that revenue equally?
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:10 am to
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They literally lost to a team of Texas middle school boys, so they don’t stand a chance against a male high school team.


In fairness, it was a Dallas area All Star team, so it was the best school aged soccer players in a huge metro.

But your point still stands. Women's soccer is slower pace, which actually makes it easier to watch on TV. But it's far less exciting.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:11 am to
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They literally lost to a team of Texas middle school boys


this doesn't matter if they are generating revenue
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:11 am to
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Besides, I thought gender was just a social construct


Why do we even have separate men’s and women’s soccer teams at this point?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:13 am to
I think LilPerm’s U16 should all identify as women. They are better than the women’s National team and could use the extra cash. Win/win for equality.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:14 am to
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A lot of people that don’t even watch soccer are going to be really upset over this.


Recognizing the economic absurdity of the women's team's argument for equal pay doesn't equal being "upset". From the women's stand point, good for them. They negotiated a better deal with their "employer". But the premise of their argument was always flawed. Essentially their position was both teams play the same sport for the same country. Thus, they should be paid equally, completely ignoring the fact the men's sport generated far more revenue.

It would be akin to saying two salesmen should be paid equally simply because they both have the same job title and work for the same company. All while ignoring the fact that one salesman generates FAR more revenue for the company than the other
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:15 am to
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The last 20 years have been different. MLS took off, and the men's national team has gotten more competitive and had a larger fan base.

Have they??? 20 years ago we were on a 4 world cup qualifying streak, today we're at missed 2 in a row.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:18 am to
The entire conversation should boil down to “how much money do you bring in.” I don’t even really care that Christian Pulisic and Giovanni Reyna could likely 2 vs 10 the women’s team. If the women generate the same money as the men, then pay them the same. Unfortunately, the men generate significantly more
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:19 am to
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A lot of people that don’t even watch soccer are going to be really upset over this.


interesting deflection topic.

Now do, Tucker, Crowder, Tim Pool, and Rogan.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:20 am to
In future news, US Soccer is bankrupt.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:21 am to
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Besides, I thought gender was just a social construct


Why do we even have separate men’s and women’s soccer teams at this point?


Exactly.

We should also stop using words like men's and women's. If it is all based on social construction then let's go down the rabbit hole and see where it leads
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:21 am to
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In future news, US Soccer is bankrupt


This has nothing to do with the Federation. I'm not aware of any changes to the revenue split between it and the players.

All that happened was the men literally gave their money to the women. Agreed upon by the mne's union.
Posted by terriblegreen
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:22 am to
Thank God I don’t watch this garbage.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:23 am to
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the women’s FIFA World Cup was beaten by a team of middle schoolers in Texas.


That whole team of middle schoolers should identify as female and take every spot on the women’s team so they could get paid
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:23 am to
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today we're at missed 2 in a row.


Today we are qualified for this year’s World Cup.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 10:24 am to
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20 years ago we were on a 4 world cup qualifying streak, today we're at missed 2 in a row.


2018 is the only WC USMNT failed to qualify for this decade.

But yes, it's up in the air if the USMNT has become more competitive.
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