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re: US SC strikes down Harvard and UNC race-based affirmative action programs.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:49 am to c on z
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:49 am to c on z
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You’re only going off of a singular quote of MLK and not telling a greater story of him regarding what he advocated for if you believe that progressives are throwing him under the bus
MLK fought against white liberals back then and would be fighting against them today
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:49 am to c on z
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You’re only going off of a singular quote of MLK and not telling a greater story of him regarding what he advocated for if you believe that progressives are throwing him under the bus.
Did he advocate for equality of outcome or opportunity?
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:56 am to HeLeakin
Only reason this can be enforced is because Harvard accepts lots of federal funding (>$1 billion a year).
If Harvard rejects that federal funding, they'll again be allowed to discriminate.
>$1 billion a year is worth around $20 billion in the endowment.
But I suspect Harvard is just going to drop test scores and rely on students writing about their race in their essays which is still constitutional.
If Harvard rejects that federal funding, they'll again be allowed to discriminate.
>$1 billion a year is worth around $20 billion in the endowment.
But I suspect Harvard is just going to drop test scores and rely on students writing about their race in their essays which is still constitutional.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:04 am to c on z
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Within the context of this topic, thoughts on white legacy students?
Stupid. Earn your way in.
The only things that should be relevant are the qualifications of the students.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:08 am to DakIsNoLB
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I remember reading something about this years ago. Not so much test scores, but quality of accomplishment. Kids would be named "Valedictorian", and they would even have the GPA to back it up, but their high school was a low performer. Like being MVP of the XFL vs the NFL
I taught night classes at a community college 6-7 years ago. I had the valedictorian of an inner-city Birmingham high school in my class. She couldn't write a paragraph. It was absurd how behind she was considering she had the highest GPA of her graduating high school class.
Good person. Seemed driven to be successful. But she had absolutely zero reason to be taking college courses without serious remediation.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:09 am to CAPEX
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But I suspect Harvard is just going to drop test scores and rely on students writing about their race in their essays which is still constitutional.
Is it still constitutional? Couldn't someone argue that it's just a means of enacting a race-based affirmative action program?
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:12 am to StringedInstruments
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Is it still constitutional? Couldn't someone argue that it's just a means of enacting a race-based affirmative action program
Yeah, that's still constitutional.
All universities will do is ask for diversity statements and get diversity that way.
This case doesn't rule that out (they should have but they didn't).
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:20 am to HeLeakin
Where can I watch the sky screamers melt and call the SC nazi's?
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:26 am to TBoy
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Jackson's dissent is still a good read regardless of whether you agree with it.
I didn't find it particularly compelling. It doesn't come close to addressing how a student will do once they get into college. By that time, K-12 is over. There's no time to properly prepare them for college.
She talks about wealth disparity based on incomes among college graduates, white vs. black. That's too broad. Compare the incomes vs race vs major chosen. If majors with low income prospects are chosen more often by one group, then, of course, the incomes will be lower on average.
She then starts talking about the consideration of race on the application as if it is a minor distinction; it's just one of the many parts of the holistic application process. Well, if it's so minor, then why fight so hard to have it?
The UNC policy states "reviewers may also consider the race or ethnicity of any student (if that information is provided) in light of UNC's interest in diversity. And, yes, the race or ethnicity of any student may - or may not - receive a 'plus' in the evaluation process depending on the individual circumstances revealed in the student's application." so, because A.) Any prospect student can state their race on the application, and, B.) it may or may not be considered as a 'plus' for their admittance, it's entirely fair. I think that depends on all the criteria how they are weighted relative to each other.
The logic doesn't add up.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:29 am to c on z
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You’re only going off of a singular quote of MLK and not telling a greater story of him regarding what he advocated for if you believe that progressives are throwing him under the bus.
Nah, you’re just making excuses for progressives.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:37 am to HeLeakin
This is a fair and reasonable ruling.
And it's high time for this to be addressed.
And it's high time for this to be addressed.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:46 am to HeLeakin
quote:
US SC strikes down Harvard and UNC race-based affirmative action programs.
"We wuz gradz"
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:49 am to High C
Damn, the NYT is really showing their racist, white progressive face with this tweet. 
I'm surprised they haven't deleted it yet.
LINK
I'm surprised they haven't deleted it yet. quote:
The New York Times
@nytimes
Breaking News: The Supreme Court rejected affirmative action at Harvard and UNC. The major ruling curtails race-conscious college admissions in the U.S., all but ensuring that elite institutions become whiter and more Asian and less Black and Latino.
LINK
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:49 am to HeLeakin
Congratulations to all the future students at Harrard and RuNC!
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:52 am to Giantkiller
quote:LMFAO. You think elitist institutions like Harvard care about the Constitution.
Sure they will - as long as they want to keep violating the 14th amendment of the constitution.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:53 am to St Augustine
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Asian students everywhere rejoice.
They shouldn’t be punished for their parents working hard, mostly staying married as a community, and the kids succeeding in school.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:54 am to Sofaking2
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They shouldn’t be punished for their parents working hard, mostly staying married as a community, and the kids succeeding in school.
Rich white progressives will suddenly be adamantly against immigration and student visas.
Maybe Democrats will change their tune when a shite load of their northeastern donors start losing their shite when their kid's target school goes 40% Asian over the next few years.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:55 am to nvasil1
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Damn, the NYT is really showing their racist, white progressive face with this tweet. I'm surprised they haven't deleted it yet.
Babylon Bee headline from a few hours ago:
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Democrats Devastated As Supreme Court Bans Racism
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:56 am to GumboPot
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This thread is better. The one on the polyboard turned in to a Don v. Ron thread.
The PT was so much better pre trump. Not everything was about the presidency
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:58 am to Dire Wolf
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which is why I think it is kinda funny when people on here call every Democrat "communist".If these democrats are communists, their proletariat is just trannies and white student loan havers.
But this is exactly it, gender theory radical feminism and race theory is all marxism.
The middle class, the working class, will not rise up in the west because we got fat and happy. they had to move the messaging.
You say they arent commies while they openly say they are.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 11:59 am
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