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re: US SC strikes down Harvard and UNC race-based affirmative action programs.

Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:32 pm to
They don’t have it in the NBA, NFL or MLB or college sports. Why should they have it in college admissions?
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18421 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Jackson's dissent is still a good read regardless of whether you agree with it.


It really isn't. "We should be able to discriminate based on race because some people don't achieve as much as others" is what it boils down to, and that flies in the face of the 14th amendment. If colleges want to discriminate on something else (diversity of income, diversity of lived experience, etc.) to achieve a diverse student body, be my guest. But it can't be race.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127583 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:34 pm to
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What’s your opinion on the ruling?

If colorblindness is the prevailing perspective, it still leaves a gaping hole when it comes to dealing with the legacy students when the vast majority of those are white. That of course is a byproduct of past segregation which had to be fixed through laws, including affirmative action. Just because progress has since been made as a result of such laws, it doesn’t mean that it’s a sure thing that progress will continue to be made without them. If schools go on to give favor to legacy students as they always have, then it will not be the victory in terms of race that some people (namely Asians) think it will be.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:38 pm to
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today's ruling makes things worse, not better.


Only to those whose culture is broken. Only to those who place a priority on government assistance over the welfare of their children. And only to those who have sacrificed self respect and dignity for a life of mediocrity, self pity, and the crutch that is the belief in "institutional racism." It will take generations to fix that and, if anything, this ruling can only eventually be a step in the right direction for these people.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50533 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:53 pm to
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comes to dealing with the legacy students


Legacy Students = Rich, white Progressives.

LOLOLOL

You are too stupid to realize this, I know.

As for Jackson, wasn't that the dumb bitch that said she couldn't tell you what a woman was? And we are supposed to think this moron is smart?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73520 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Legacy Students = Rich, white Progressives.

Literally millions enter college every year!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:55 pm to
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If colorblindness is the prevailing perspective, it still leaves a gaping hole when it comes to dealing with the legacy students when the vast majority of those are white.

What a ridiculous premise to justify race-based admission practices.

Legacy admissions only make up around 25% of total admissions yet we're supposed to believe this is some sort of school that looks like it's in the middle of Norway
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2693 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:58 pm to
Here’s a LINK to Michelle Obamas opinion. According to her, scholarships, including athletic scholarships, are for white people and you have to be rich to afford coaches to get them.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4158 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:00 pm to
Like any of this theater matters. You’d better be on the skull and cross bones list if you want to party at Yale for four years and then waltz into a nebulous m&a job with a direct line to the central banks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Legacy Students = Rich, white Progressives.

LOLOLOL

You are too stupid to realize this, I know.


Exactly. The white legacy kids are going to be self loathing trustafarians who'll get a journalism or marketing degree to go on to a career of preaching the evils of rich white people.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54242 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Just because progress has since been made as a result of such laws, it doesn’t mean that it’s a sure thing that progress will continue to be made without them.


That’s the problem. When progress meets its intended goal in modern America, it doesn’t just stop. It tastes power and continues to reach and reach until it’s completely unfair and nonsensical.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50533 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:01 pm to
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What a ridiculous premise to justify race-based admission practices.


It is really difficult trying to get people that think someone with a penis can get pregnant to grasp simple concepts. You really are talking to someone with the intelligence level of a brick.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:03 pm to
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It is really difficult trying to get people that think someone with a penis can get pregnant to grasp simple concepts. You really are talking to someone with the intelligence level of a brick.

She could've explained her position quoting Tupac lyrics and Tboy would've called it the greatest legal opinion in US history
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54242 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:07 pm to
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Here’s a LINK to Michelle Obamas opinion.


I don’t care what Michael thinks.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135180 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:09 pm to
I believe the "adults" who have returned to the room in 2021 have already attempted a bomb threat at SCOTUS because they didn't get their way again.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:10 pm to
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If colorblindness is the prevailing perspective, it still leaves a gaping hole when it comes to dealing with the legacy students when the vast majority of those are white. That of course is a byproduct of past segregation which had to be fixed through laws, including affirmative action. Just because progress has since been made as a result of such laws, it doesn’t mean that it’s a sure thing that progress will continue to be made without them. If schools go on to give favor to legacy students as they always have, then it will not be the victory in terms of race that some people (namely Asians) think it will be.


So your argument is that racism in the form of race based admissions should be allowed because of legacy admissions? Talk about a reach. I mean good try I guess but your opinion is stupid.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Here’s a LINK to Michelle Obamas opinion.


i value her opinion almost as much as i value Oweo’s opinion. I don’t.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:11 pm to
You may note that in those paragraphs you posted there is not a single mention of a statute or jurisprudence. It's just a bunch of feelings. The job of the Supreme Court isn't to make everyone feel happy, it's to enforce the Constitution.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:12 pm to
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To think like you do, you have to believe black people are inferior to you


Well you're talking to a white guy that's pretending to be black
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:13 pm to
Medical schools need to abolish the whole “holistic” approach to admission standards, and letting unqualified minorities in. The MCAT is in place for a reason in the medical field and should never be waived for African Americans, for muh reparations.
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