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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:56 am to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:56 am to
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are they underemployed when nobody hires them for what society feels is their "worth" even if that worth is purely fiction?

They damn sure will fill out the survey and say they are underemployed
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14238 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:57 am to
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Aerospace Engineer


Was not expecting this one


I'm probably wrong but I think an aerospace engineer can only do aerospace engineering, but if you're a mechanical engineer, you can do both.

Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29220 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:57 am to
And the Potato wants to forgive the student loans for these unemployable people that made bad choices, meaning those of us that got good degrees, or went into a worthy trade where they could make money, have to pay for those bad decisions. Supreme Court decision be damned
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19707 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:57 am to
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I’ve read that it has a lot to do with international students coming here and getting a degree in aero, then they have trouble getting a security clearance that is needed for a lot of these jobs.


That actually makes sense.
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3382 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:59 am to
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Aerospace Engineering?


Look at the underemployment rate for this. It's factoring in economic recession which we are currently experiencing and business cycles. This will eventually grow as more companies are looking to invest into commercial travel, but Boeing's situation certainly did not help.

Then there is the Astronautical side of this which Elon is leading the way with SpaceX. Blue Origin, Boeing, Virgin Galactic, ULA and Rocket Lab are up and comers as well in this area amongst others. We'll see how this all plays out though.

Also, Aerospace engineers can fall back on Mechanical since a lot of the core curriculum is the same.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25729 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:07 am to
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Check in with them about 10 years into retirement and see who is living and the beach and who is still making payments on a side by side and pontoon boat


I don't know exactly where you are going with that.

I presume the plumbers are on the beach (because they can sell their practice for more money than a lawyer) and lawyers are in debt (because the overgeneralized trope is that they have shite credit)?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37564 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:09 am to
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quote:Aerospace engineering is a bit shocking

Assuming it's a lack of demand rather than excess of supply


This. I feel like the market for aerospace engineers just isn’t that high
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37564 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:10 am to
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Notice you don’t see plumbers and electricians on the list. Those are jobs that actually matter.


They are also not majors in college either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:17 am to
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The question I would have is if someone obtains a PhD that doesn't really matter, are they underemployed when nobody hires them for what society feels is their "worth" even if that worth is purely fiction?


I think "underemployed" is a category for stat hounds. It matters more for economists than the actual worker.

I've rarely used my degree, and could be considered "underemployed" at various times of my life, but I didnt feel that way at all.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20508 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:18 am to
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Notice you don’t see plumbers and electricians on the list. Those are jobs that actually matter.


I could also guarantee you that 9/10 of them say they are underemployed and don’t enjoy their job
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:27 am to
Most college graduates don’t work in a field related to their major (minus specialties like engineering, accounting etc…)
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2064 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:05 pm to
Tradespeople learn trades but rarely about money. You'll see tons of them working out of necessity until their body gives out.

quote:

I presume the plumbers are on the beach (because they can sell their practice for more money than a lawyer)


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58963 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Notice you don’t see plumbers and electricians on the list. Those are jobs that actually matter.


This got 29 upvotes. What a bunch of retards.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5670 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:10 pm to
Electricians and plumbers do very well, and are the least likely to be replaced by AI.

But you don’t have to go to college for those careers. Trade schools and apprenticeships.

College isn’t the best path for everyone.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7823 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:15 pm to
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This got 29 upvotes. What a bunch of retards.



You never took Fittings and Nipples 101 or Toilets 305 at LSU?
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1457 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:30 pm to
We employ tons of biology majors and so do all of our competitors. Large engineering firms need biologist to do all the env surveys and assist in obtaining permits.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25729 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Tradespeople learn trades but rarely about money. You'll see tons of them working out of necessity until their body gives out.


That hasn't been my experience.

Trades people that become self employed have been the opposite.

I've done real estate transactions in Gulf Shores with million dollar views for self employed plumbers.

Million dollar views in the blue ridge mountains for self employed plumbers.

Carpenters in the film industry paying cash for new construction in Costa Rica.

Not all trades are that way.
Self employed HVAC guys retire too.
But their typical home in the mountains is paid for. But hvac companies are a dime a dozen and he wasn't able to sell the company.

I don't see what you are positing at all.
Trades in Atlanta maybe have been much more successful than your area with the growth over the past 40 years.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25729 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Tradespeople learn trades but rarely about money.


It is an overgeneralization about doctors and lawyers.

But even many of the great ones have shite for credit.
The only explanation is that they make F you money and don't care about sending in a timely payment.
That and that they can spend cash flow like a politician.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18707 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Aerospace Engineer Was not expecting this one


TD actually a hard field to get into. Once in you’re a made man, but that first gig can take some time.

My son got on with Boeing on the defense side but it took a year and he is from a top 10 program and a deans list guy with a great internship.

Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4322 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:37 pm to
Engineers will be engineers or teachers... The rest will eventually sell real estate.
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