re: UPS Teamsters Unite

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If you truly have unique talent, you don’t need a union

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Okay, so as an individual blue collar service worker, I’m supposed to negotiate a fair rate of compensation for my skills from an international Fortune 100 company. Gotcha.

Fortunately, we have a union to negotiate fair wages, and, in fact, the rates they negotiate for us even benefit non-union workers in smaller companies, since our rates set the industry average. If service company XYZ tries to pay less, all their best potential candidates will come work for us. XYZ will either have to raise wages or close up shop. Capitalism, bitch.

Of course we could each individually negotiate compensation with our (huge) company, but that approach would leave the company free to drive down rates overall and, ultimately, lead to lower pay (and higher corporate profits) across the board. That may be a desirable goal for some folks, but from my vantage point, there’s nothing wrong with a group of employees leveraging their collective bargaining power to negotiate wages commensurate with both their skill/worth and the company’s profitability. In that sense, it’s basically nothing more than a single employee negotiating a wage with a small employer—just done at a macro level.

All of that said, public sector unions can EAD.

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Okay, so as an individual blue collar service worker, I’m supposed to negotiate a fair rate of compensation for my skills from an international Fortune 100 company. Gotcha.

Fortunately, we have a union to negotiate fair wages, and, in fact, the rates they negotiate for us even benefit non-union workers in smaller companies, since our rates set the industry average. If service company XYZ tries to pay less, all their best potential candidates will come work for us. XYZ will either have to raise wages or close up shop. Capitalism, bitch

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You act like it's still the guilded age and you don't have access to information in the palm of your hand.

The CDL is definitely worth money. Any driver works long days in hard, physical conditions. You try to hold down their pay because you don't think they're worth more than $12 an hour, and the driver shortage will get worse.

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The CDL is definitely worth money. Any driver works long days in hard, physical conditions. You try to hold down their pay because you don't think they're worth more than $12 an hour, and the driver shortage will get worse.

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And then wages increase because the company has to attract workers. This is happening in professional sectors all over this country. Wages at banks, for example, have risen a lot in the past year because a lot of what used to he bankers are now going to tech or other industries.

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And then wages increase because the company has to attract workers.

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The professional driver shortage is not a new issue. They've had shortages for years. Why isn't pay going up?

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Of course they will, is it a right to keep a job that you provide no value for? If you provide value or have a skillset thats not easily obtainable you'll be fine. It's really expensive to hire new people.

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This is naive.

Congratulations for working a high demand field, and for making yourself more skilled and marketable through training and networking.

Not every industry is like that, and not every employee has the same opportunities. If they want to join a union and negotiate en masse for better conditions, good for them.

I'd certainly prefer that to modern-day feudalism.

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Not every industry is like that, and not every employee has the same opportunities.

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Yes they do.

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I'd certainly prefer that to modern-day feudalism.

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Cannot happen today with all of the information available to employees. Sounds like you are in favor of handouts and laziness of people that want more money but don't want to work for it.

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They are all going to end up without a job, perfect time for the Trump Admin to act and privatize the U.S.P.S. once and for all.

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UPS, not USPS.