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re: UPDATE: Body found in Brian Laundrie search

Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by pussywillows
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:29 pm to
i don't do instagram, but that is the woman in the twitter videos about the incident.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:29 pm to
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Brian Laundrie argued in Wyoming restaurant hours before Gabby Petito vanished: eyewitnesses

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Nina Celie Angelo and Matthew England were in Jackson Hole, Wyoming for a wedding
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FIRST ON FOX: One of the last times Gabby Petito was seen alive involved an explosive argument between Brian Laundrie and wait staff at a Jackson Hole restaurant, according to a New Orleans couple who said they witnessed the spat.

"I have chills right now," Nina Celie Angelo told Fox News Digital Wednesday. "It's crazy because it wasn't just like we passed them on the street -- it was a full blown incident."

Angelo said she and her boyfriend, Matthew England, were in town for a wedding in late August. They were out to lunch at Merry Piglets, a Tex-Mex restaurant, between 1 and 2 p.m. on Aug. 27, when they said an agitated Laundrie began arguing with a waitress. Four and a half hours later, a travel-blogging couple passed Petito's van at a campsite north of town.
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Angelo, a photographer, said she couldn’t overhear the conversation but that she believed Laundrie was arguing with staff over the bill or about money. She described his body language as "aggressive" and said he left and returned about four times.


At one point, Petito came inside and apologized for Laundrie’s behavior, Angelo said.

A manager at the restaurant told Fox News that the business is "super busy during summer" and couldn’t recall the incident. Local police and the sheriff’s department deferred questions to the FBI, which declined to comment.

Angelo, who posted a detailed account of the scene on her Instagram, said she didn’t think much of the incident at first – and when they flew home to New Orleans, Hurricane Ida hit and upended their lives.

But after Utah police bodycam video emerged last week, her boyfriend, England, a financial adviser, connected the dots and realized that the couple arguing was Petito and Laundrie.


"He goes, ‘Nina, that was the couple fighting at the restaurant,’" Angelo said. "And I it stopped me in my tracks. I felt like the blood left my body. I was like, oh my God, I completely forgot about that incident."


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England told Fox News that he reported the incident to the FBI and that Petito appeared "visibly upset" with Laundrie as he hounded staff at the Merry Piglets Tex-Mex restaurant.

The incident happened roughly two weeks after Fox News Digital was first to report that a witness called 911 about a domestic fight between Petito and Laundrie in Moab, Utah. Angelo and England said bodycam video of the police response matched the mannerisms and body language of Petito and Laundrie they witnessed firsthand. Laundrie was also wearing clothes England said he recognized from the video and "looked kind of like he had been living out in a van for a little while."


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"I spent the last three or four days really kind of racking my brain," he told Fox News Wednesday. "And I woke up this morning and went to Facebook, and there was that video with the police on it, right away. That was the couple."

Then it clicked.

"I would bet $10 million, I’m 1,000 percent sure that was him and that was her," he said.

England also provided a credit card statement showing he spent $60.88 at the restaurant on Aug. 27.


Angelo said it did not appear that Laundrie was on drugs, and he was "not screaming." But he was behaving aggressively with the restaurant staff, a waitress, a hostess and the manager – all women.

Aug. 27 is around the time Petito last made contact with friends and family. On Sept. 1, Laundrie is believed to have arrived at his parents’ home in Florida without her – driving her van.

The FBI said her remains were discovered Sunday at a campsite north of Jackson Hole.


FOX
Posted by AUFANATL
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:30 pm to
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What if BL had told the people who picked him up that he had broken up with gf and went camping on his own for a while. He comes back from camping and decides he wants to go home and ask if they drop him off at the Jackson Airport on the way to Jackson Hole instead of trying to return to the van and drive it home. He returns home and the van is still at Spread Creek how different does this case turn?


They probably would have found her body sooner. Missing person report goes out for both her and the white van. Given the limited number of roads and campsites in the Teton area, you have to think rangers or alerted campers would find the van within a few days. Once they find the van, they search the area (perhaps with cadaver dogs) and find the body. So figure she is probably dug up by the 14th.

Finding the body a week earlier than they did may or may not help. I'm not sure. I would think it would make it easier to determine the exact time and cause of death. And his plane ticket and the testimony of the couple who gave him a ride would put him in the area at that time. So coupled with all of the other evidence (police report from Utah, cell data, parent's concern, etc) it still paints a bad picture for him.
Posted by baldona
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:31 pm to
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arguing with wait staff at a Jackson Hole


Jackson Hole is a small town. Would be almost impossible for this to be a new lead. That story would be everywhere there and if there was a scene with him that recently the staff most certainly would have reported it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:33 pm to
WOWZERS.
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Well, psychopaths by definition are able to hide behind a facade of normalcy.


*Sociopaths.

Psychopaths are apparent to most everyone as psychopaths.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Christ. I'm not admitting I was "fooled", but by what was seen on the video, what was actually determined by LEO that were physically present, by the words spoken by GP, a reasonable, objective perception that she was the aggressor is not wrong.


Don't let him upset you. He's posted at least 10 times in here with a victory lap along the lines of "I was right about Brian and the OT was fooled by the video!" despite slim details being released and pretty much everyone being open to different interpretations

Hopefully Chicken'll ask him to move on yet a third time
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:35 pm to
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That's such an Updyke move.


Well since BL killed a living thing like Updyke I say it’s legit
Posted by Rebel80
Member since Sep 2016
263 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:36 pm to
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. They went looking for him there Wednesday and found his car but left it there in case he was just camping and was going to drive it home. Thursday they went and picked up the car.


What if he was still camping Thursday and didn’t want to come home til Friday or even Saturday .

Sounds fishy
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:37 pm to
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LINK


“Hey, Nina, could you for God’s sake please do me a favor and put your boyfriend on the phone, because you’re just rambling. Put a dude on the phone who could explain this in one minute instead of ten minutes going back and forth.”
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33941 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:37 pm to
Twitter Video of interview of neighbors


Claim they went on a camping trip in truck with that camper in the driveway.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:39 pm to
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they went on a camping trip with that camper in the driveway

Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:40 pm to
Maybe they were out looking for a therapist to treat Brian after Gabby abused him for over 2 years.
Posted by Motorboat
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Don't let him upset you. He's posted at least 10 times in here with a victory lap along the lines of "I was right about Brian and the OT was fooled by the video!" despite slim details being released and pretty much everyone being open to different interpretations


I'm not upset baw. I knew all the people that "so boldly" predicted that he was the killer would come back thumping their chest when confirmed. Can't stand when people fail to consider other possibilities. It shows small mindedness.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:44 pm to
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FIRST ON FOX: One of the last times Gabby Petito was seen alive involved an explosive argument
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"It's crazy because it wasn't just like we passed them on the street -- it was a full blown incident."
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Angelo, a photographer, said she couldn’t overhear the conversation
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A manager at the restaurant told Fox News that the business is "super busy during summer" and couldn’t recall the incident.
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Angelo said it did not appear that Laundrie was on drugs, and he was "not screaming."
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the restaurant staff, a waitress, a hostess and the manager – all women.



It's so hard to tell what's reality and what's spin or hysteria in this article
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:46 pm to
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I'm not upset baw. I knew all the people that "so boldly" predicted that he was the killer would come back thumping their chest when confirmed. Can't stand when people fail to consider other possibilities. It shows small mindedness.


Occam’s razor, ‘Mo. All the relevant facts were there and clear in the direction they were pointing.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33941 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:46 pm to



Laundrie business shows temporarily closed and have seen claims their website has been suspended.
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:47 pm to
The first one was Fox’s headlines. Of course the news is going to make it sound worse.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:48 pm to
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Occam’s razor, ‘Mo. All the relevant facts were there and clear in the direction they were pointing.



for like the millionth time in this thread, we all knew what the most likely outcome was, Occam's razor etc., and even said it the whole time, but were interested in speculation and alternative scenarios
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54880 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Can't stand when people fail to consider other possibilities. It shows small mindedness.
Yeah. I mean if you are going to be stubbornly wrong at least do it with great imagination.
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