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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:30 am to TH03
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:30 am to TH03
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Do I need to post your operator thread melt yesterday?
That was an elaborate troll that I took seriously for a few minutes. There's nothing like filing up Roger and his fellow plant baws.
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:31 am to Rep520
Awesome link.
I get this, but the foreign experts are willing to not give up.
quote:
In Alfie’s case, none of the foreign experts have offered any new treatment, or any new outlook for Alfie.
I get this, but the foreign experts are willing to not give up.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:31 am to TH03
quote:HAVE A HEART
TH03
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:31 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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That was an elaborate troll that I took seriously for a few minutes. There's nothing like filing up Roger and his fellow plant baws.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:32 am to stout
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are you gossiping about a posters personal life that they didn't share here? It's none of your business and certainly none of your business to bring it up if it is true and he didn't mention it. That's a shitty move on your part IMO.
Stout, since Rag is no more, YOU, with your past posting, of all people, shouldn't post this.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:32 am to TheCaterpillar
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I agree this is absolute bullshite, but that article feels like it was written by an emotionally charged 15 year old girl with a thesaurus
Yeah, it was meant to be written that way. The author has been in the midst of this battle for a while, written numerous articles, and decided enough was enough he needed to unload his opinion. I think he is trying to stir emotions because, yes he wants people to be upset. What's so wrong about that?
Have none of you ever read or heard of an op-ed? jesus
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:32 am to Rep520
Once the Pope starts footing the bill, then it becomes bullshite. Get the kid the help he needs.
You can bet your arse they wouldn’t be doing this to Kate Middleton’s kid. And speaking of that, where the frick is the Royal Family on this? They are almost completely worthless, but this is the one time they could come in handy. Instead they’re just going to sit on their asses as usual with their tea and crumpets while this kid dies.
You can bet your arse they wouldn’t be doing this to Kate Middleton’s kid. And speaking of that, where the frick is the Royal Family on this? They are almost completely worthless, but this is the one time they could come in handy. Instead they’re just going to sit on their asses as usual with their tea and crumpets while this kid dies.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:33 am to TH03
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TH03
In 2018, you are considered an insensitive piece of shite if you ask for journalism that has emotion and bias removed and includes just facts.
I am on the parents' side here. This is bullshite. The UK should be able to say they refuse treatment, that is fine, but to bar the parents and the Italian government from taking the child's care over is ludicrous. They would have to kill me to stop me.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:34 am to LCA131
I never fricked with peoples real lives and you know it, LCA.
If they brought it to the board it was fair game but I never did what you're doing. Its shitty.
If they brought it to the board it was fair game but I never did what you're doing. Its shitty.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:35 am to Rep520
quote:Thanks for the link.
Here's a counterpoint from a medical ethics perspective. I'm not saying I'm an expert or taking sides bc I don't know much about the case, but this gives a more sober response that highlights the issues at play.
Nothing in that swayed me towards the UK courts' or doctors' side. It came off like it was written by the judge. Which to me, means the law itself is insane.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to TheCaterpillar
They say it's for the better.
1. Kid dies.
2. Kid received further treatment and stays alive.
In what world is option 1 better for the child?
1. Kid dies.
2. Kid received further treatment and stays alive.
In what world is option 1 better for the child?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:That is how I read the facts as well
1. Alfie Evans has been on life support in a coma
2. A judge decided to end life support
3. His parents asked the government to continue treatment
4. The government denied.
5. Ital/The Vatican stepped up and offered 100% of the treatment, and care
6. The parents asked the UK to let them take him to Italy
7. The UK denied their request
8. Italy sent a military medivac to the hospital in the UK to transport Alfie
9. The UK sent armed police to block the Italian government/Alfie's parents from taking him to Italy
10. The UK government turned off his life support
11. Alfie continued to live, and is still alive off life support and is visually and audibly responsive to stimuli
12. The UK govermnet is still denying Alfi be moved to Italy
13. If Alfie dies, Italy will file a formal complaint with the EU of murder of an ITalian citizen by a foreign government.
one huge question remains for me:
Have the parents offered to pay for all the medical care themselves, and if so, is the government still denying them moving their son?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:Well that's a little terrifying
The doctors at Alder Hey hospital, however, won the right to kill their son.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:
Yeah, it was meant to be written that way. The author has been in the midst of this battle for a while, written numerous articles, and decided enough was enough he needed to unload his opinion. I think he is trying to stir emotions because, yes he wants people to be upset. What's so wrong about that?
It is not really "wrong", it is just really poorly written. This is a very moving subject and he did not portray that effectively. He just repeated insults and used way too much hyperbole that almost was exhausting. You can write an emotionally charged op-ed that still gives the reader the ability to glean facts efficiently.
Again, I'm on y'alls side here. This is bullshite on the side of the UK. I'm just disputing your claim that it was "the best write up".
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
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Have the parents offered to pay for all the medical care themselves, and if so, is the government still denying them moving their son?
I don't know about payment, but the pope has opened a hospital owned by the Vatican for the child.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:38 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
I would be fighting non-stop until they got my child treatment. They may just have to kill me.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:38 am to TheCaterpillar
Is the UK trying to say the kid is suffering and by moving him and continuing the care, that the suffering will continue or get worse?
That is the only argument I could see them having and its still a terrible one.
That is the only argument I could see them having and its still a terrible one.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:39 am to stout
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never fricked with peoples real lives and you know it, LCA.
Not sure that's true, but chill out cause
IT'S A RUNNING JOKE THAT I SAY TO PUT THE NEEDLE IN 03. I HAVE ADMITTED AS MUCH.
Your reaction is what makes me laugh... I guess next you're going to lecture us about taking this stuff too seriously?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:39 am to TH03
quote:no you are exaggerating just like the 2 SJWs the OT loves. No one said you were like hitler. you just made that up. People are calling you out for being a douche. Maybe you should just take your lump then make alike a tree and get out of here.
I said the article was emotional and apparently I'm Hitler himself.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:39 am to TH03
quote:
Have the parents offered to pay for all the medical care themselves, and if so, is the government still denying them moving their son?
quote:
I don't know about payment, but the pope has opened a hospital owned by the Vatican for the child
Italy will pay for treatment.
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