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re: 'Unprecedented': Property tax bills have reached double value for Texas homeowners

Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:07 am to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12662 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:07 am to
Based on $294 a sqft in say Houston, my house currently would be $737K. Harris County prop tax is 2.3%. With Homestead, still paying over $16,000.

Sounds like Texas would cost me $5K more for my same life there.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36999 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:14 am to
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587% appreciation in one year?

Sell, or shut up and pay it.

Probably was undervalued historically and the owner never bitched about that....


Agreed.

I don't know a single homeowner that has gone through this.

Has their home value gone up? Sure, but only a little each year, doesn't stop them about complaining though.

Not saying that the increase is just and all, but this story sounds like BS.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
60908 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:28 am to
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Sell, or shut up and pay it.

Probably was undervalued historically and the owner never bitched about that....






The property values around here are being artificially inflated by a-hole corporations and investment firms that are buying up every single piece of property they can in an effort to make people permanent renters or to force up home prices far beyond what they are actually worth.

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One in two homes sold last year in Tarrant County went to an investor, company or corporation.

Tarrant County ranked third nationwide for the share of homes purchased by investors, at 52%, according to a report by the National Association of Realtors.

Although Tarrant tops the list among Texas counties, several others are not far behind.

In Rockwall County, 45% of homes sold last year were purchased by investors; in Dallas County, 43% of homes went to investors, and 39% in Denton County.

Statewide, 28% of homebuyers were companies or corporations last year, the highest rate nationwide and more than double the national average of 13%.

Institutional investors have one big advantage, said Shannon Ashkinos, president of the Greater Fort Worth Association of Realtors.

They pay cash.

“Traditional homebuyers just can’t compete,” said Ashkinos, who works with JPAR Real Estate. “We’ve seen this over and over again. Anyone trying for a traditional loan is stuck in a way.”


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The median sale price of a home in Dallas-Fort Worth and surrounding areas reached $400,000 in April, according to the Texas Real Estate Research Center at Texas A&M University. That marks a 23% hike from last April and an increase of about 51% since April 2019.

“That first-time home buyer price range no longer exists,” Ashkinos said.

In addition to cash offers, a survey by the association found that homeowners sold to institutional investors because they agreed to purchase the property “as is” or offered a guaranteed purchase.

Of investor purchases, 42% of properties were converted to single-family rentals and 45% were flipped and resold.




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My wife and I have been looking for a new home in DFW for 2 years now and it's pretty much impossible to win any kind of bid unless you offer well over initial asking price ($50k+ is normal) all cash, w/no inspections. Most open houses we go to the majority of the people there are just holding up a phone and to stream the house to their boss. Multiple times we left a place and before we were even able to get home it was already sold.

Zillow will buy up every single house for sale in a neighbor hood and on the last house they'll purchase it for a large percentage over ask and then turn around and say the market was set by that house and jack up the prices for every home they just bought. Redfin and Amazon (partnered w/Realogy who own Century 21) are doing the same.

Also, at saying just sell and move. Get out of here w/that BS. Even if you do sell you aren't making any money b/c it's impossible to get a comparable home to what you just got forced out of at a fair price.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:50 pm to
A house is a place to live. It’s not meant to be an investment.

If your house is valued so high you can’t afford the property taxes then sell and move to an area you can afford.

You don’t have an indefinite right to live in a certain area.


Suburbs are a drain and should all be nuked from existence. This board has suburb, giant McMansion, car culture brain rot.

This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35819 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:54 pm to
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Based on $294 a sqft in say Houston, my house currently would be $737K. Harris County prop tax is 2.3%. With Homestead, still paying over $16,000.


Rates a set yearly and are going to be lower this year than last, so it just basing off your numbers it'd likely be more like $2k more expensive.

But your insurance rates, decreased sales tax, avoidance of requiring private schools (if applicable) would way more than make up for it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58721 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:01 pm to
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587% appreciation in one year?

Sell, or shut up and pay it.

Probably was undervalued historically and the owner never bitched about that....
spot the lie
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58721 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:06 pm to
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No one should ever have to move because their neighborhood became more desirable.
what kind of lib bullshite is this?

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Imo the only way it should work is that day you bought your home for $200k, you only ever pay taxes on your homes value at 200k adjusted for inflation. So if it say becomes worth 900k 15 years later, you only pay taxes on the 200k value adjusted slightly in todays dollars. So like 250k or something of that nature.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76464 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Probably was undervalued historically and the owner never bitched about that....
So?

She paid $68,000 for it.

Any property taxes should be based off of what she paid, not to even touch on the fact that property taxes are bullshite.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52854 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Suburbs are a drain and should all be nuked from existence. This board has suburb, giant McMansion, car culture brain rot.

Urban areas are fun to visit sometimes but shite places to live for most families. Maybe focus on why they are shite instead of blaming people for not wanting to live there?
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22794 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

587% appreciation in one year?

Sell, or shut up and pay it.

Probably was undervalued historically and the owner never bitched about that....


Why are the dumbasses the most prolific posters?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58721 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Any property taxes should be based off of what she paid, not to even touch on the fact that property taxes are bullshite.

good way to ruin public schools and infrastructure
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63833 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Suburbs are a drain and should all be nuked from existence. This board has suburb, giant McMansion, car culture brain rot.



Cities are absolute psychological hell holes and you have your super rich and your dirt poor. Crime is highest in the cities, taxes are highest in the cities. Really nice to live.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35819 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Cities are absolute psychological hell holes and you have your super rich and your dirt poor. Crime is highest in the cities, taxes are highest in the cities. Really nice to live.


Yall really are incapable of understanding what he's saying huh
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3721 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 2:59 pm to
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It’s always dumbfounded me that someone that buys a home can get priced out of their own home down the line by the way the market changes. I understand raising property taxes marginally with inflation and cost of things like roads and schools, but even with homestead exemptions, the idea that you’re punished because your 3 bed 2 bath has artificially increased 600% is insane to me. No one should ever have to move because their neighborhood became more desirable. Imo the only way it should work is that day you bought your home for $200k, you only ever pay taxes on your homes value at 200k adjusted for inflation. So if it say becomes worth 900k 15 years later, you only pay taxes on the 200k value adjusted slightly in todays dollars. So like 250k or something of that nature. This post was edited on 6/17 at 2:47 pm


Exactly.

Our homes value has “doubled” but if our town thinks they are going to tax it’s people “double” they got another God damn thing coming and won’t be in office very long.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35819 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:01 pm to
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Our homes value has “doubled” but if our town thinks they are going to tax it’s people “double” they got another God damn thing coming and won’t be in office very long


Well, though don't so.
Posted by grimmrimmer
Member since Nov 2006
267 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:03 pm to
I agree it's BS, but I think protesting now helps in the future. Those jackasses won't lower the values easily, so anything you can do to protect yourself from future years I think is worth it.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
1711 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:05 pm to
No one in the Houston area is getting 600% return. Maybe 100% if you have lived there for awhile.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69617 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
horrible take
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4835 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:12 pm to
And the government gets more power every day. Bet some big corps are licking their chops waiting for the tax sales that are coming.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3644 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 3:16 pm to
This is why I sold my house in Katy, and bought acreage that has an ag exemption late last year.
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