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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:34 pm to Chicken
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:34 pm to Chicken
quote:
I could never see myself resisting an officer, so I will never empathize with someone that does.
That's fricking stupid. You can't empathize with that dude who got ambushed in Marksville and the kid who got killed?
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 6:39 pm
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:38 pm to Junky
quote:What cheaper, faster, and likely illegal way than to use their own plane.
What cheaper and faster way than to use their own plane?
Yay!!!!
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:43 pm to saintsfan22
It's not worth arguing dude. He's obviously too hard headed to see this in any other light
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:46 pm to Napoleon
yes, to all your scnenarios.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:48 pm to Junky
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$850-$900 compensation for a ~$350 flight is more than reasonable
Apparently not. It would have been good practice to increase the offer until someone else volunteered. They would rather cause a scene and forcibly remove unwilling passengers from a plane that was already boarded.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:49 pm to Napoleon
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-- In other news, their sharp stock price fall will not last forever. I am going in at a small ten shares to test the waters today. If it drops more I will get more.
Too late. It's already recovered.
I bought this morning and sold this afternoon for a quick 3% profit
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:50 pm to Junky
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So where do they stop? $850-$900 compensation for a ~$350 flight is more than reasonable. They moved on to selecting people.
Lol what? If they are kicking paying customers off so a crew can fly for free, they better damn well be willing to pay over $1000 for a $350 flight.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:53 pm to jbgleason
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Failure to comply with lawful orders of a flight crew is a Federal Crime. So there is that.
Was it lawful?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
And will United let this case stew in court for years to determine this?
Most companies settle "nuisance" suits they could win because of time resources and bad publicity involved. And this guy actually has a case.
Most companies settle "nuisance" suits they could win because of time resources and bad publicity involved. And this guy actually has a case.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:03 pm to NYNolaguy1
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In short they kicked off and had the police beat up a passenger for terrible reasons.
You're absolutely clueless.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:06 pm to Junky
They could have rented a van and driven the 4 people to Louisville in 5 hours for $200.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:09 pm to Evolved Simian
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You're absolutely clueless.
Go on.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:14 pm to saintsfan22
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That's fricking stupid. You can't empathize with that dude who got ambushed in Marksville and the kid who got killed?
Some people think the people are the law.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:16 pm to kywildcatfanone
For me, this just got more interesting. Apparently Tempura was on the phone with his lawyer when the jack booted thugs began wailing on him.
The article did not say how long he was able to speak with his attorney or if the attorney had a chance to advise him before the arse-whooping commenced.
The article did not say how long he was able to speak with his attorney or if the attorney had a chance to advise him before the arse-whooping commenced.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
I'm not delving into anything wise but SOP for airlines is to resolve over booking BEFORE boarding the plane
So. AT LEAST the dumb fricks ought to own that.
So. AT LEAST the dumb fricks ought to own that.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:20 pm to kywildcatfanone
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They could have rented a van and driven the 4 people to Louisville in 5 hours for $200.
Someone else has seen Home Alone.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:22 pm to Chicken
quote:You seem to have your mind made up, despite basically all of us not 100% knowing the actual legalities of this one.
yep...I will be pissed if United settles with him.
That's a pretty shitty position to take IMO.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:30 pm to BRIllini07
quote:From what I gather, you can still be chosen for IDB after getting on the plane. The issue is the "Must ride" deal that some are posting about, aviation attorneys do not seem to recognize this in a legal sense.
I think the airline has a technical arguement where the boarding wasn't "completed" yet. Of course, it wouldn't be in the best PR to actually make that argument too loudly.
So if it were simply overbooking, yes they could take him off the plane even after he got on the plane, but this was not due to overbooking.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:34 pm to shel311
Not sure if posted, but he finally got the message:
LINK
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Dear Team,
The truly horrific event that occurred on this flight has elicited many responses from all of us: outrage, anger, disappointment. I share all of those sentiments, and one above all: my deepest apologies for what happened. Like you, I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight and I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard. No one should ever be mistreated this way.
I want you to know that we take full responsibility and we will work to make it right.
It's never too late to do the right thing. I have committed to our customers and our employees that we are going to fix what's broken so this never happens again. This will include a thorough review of crew movement, our policies for incentivizing volunteers in these situations, how we handle oversold situations and an examination of how we partner with airport authorities and local law enforcement. We'll communicate the results of our review by April 30th.
I promise you we will do better.
Sincerely,
Oscar
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This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 7:37 pm
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