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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:10 pm to Chicken
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:10 pm to Chicken
quote:
if my rights were violated, that will come out when I sue, no?
Nope. You consented to a search. You gave up that right.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:12 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
The property owner legally evicted you, you decide to just sit down. You take a beating because you were an idiot
That's a dumb analogy too. Evictions take place after a hearing. There was no hearing here.
A better analogy is that you sign a lease, pay it, then the landlord tries to evict you by his self, but lies to the cops and says your trying to burn down the house because the tenant after you is paying twice your rent.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:whatever...I don't even know what concocted scenario you are referring to anymore...I guess I have consented...now why did I do that???
Nope. You consented to a search. You have up that right.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:15 pm to Chicken
quote:
what was the advantage of resisting the cops' orders?
Because by not consenting, you're forcing the officer to justify his search. If he can't justify it, you can sue. By consenting you're literally giving up your rights.
quote:
what did that get me besides an injury?
Some people value having rights. By not asserting them you are handing them over because you don't want to get hurt. How much are your rights worth to you?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:15 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Not sure if posted, but he finally got the message:
Only cost United a Billion dollars to write.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
meh, I will put my faith in the justice system if my rights are violated...I value my life and my health more than you, I suppose.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:17 pm to shel311
quote:
Cop shows up to your house, says he's going to search it, he has no warrant. You tell him he can't until he gets a warrant, he barges in, throws you down and injured you in the process.
What does this have to do with anything?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
Hard to turn down an easy 2k at the end of the day. If it dips again I'll buy again
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:18 pm to Chicken
quote:
.I don't even know what concocted scenario you are referring to anymore
quote:
Cop shows up to your house, says he's going to search it, he has no warrant. You tell him he can't until he gets a warrant, he barges in, throws you down and injured you in the process.
If this happened , you wouldn't have any empathy for that person, or if it happened to you, you'd just be like, "my bad, should have listened to the cop, that was totally my fault, not the cop's fault at all"???
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:apparently, if you act all hard with the cops, something good will come out of it...after you are discharged from the hospital.
What does this have to do with anything?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:19 pm to Chicken
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I will put my faith in the justice system if my rights are violated
You won't find much relief there.
Your fourth and fifth amendment rights are only there if you assert them. If you don't you have no rights.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:20 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:we shall see!
You won't find much relief there.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:20 pm to Chicken
I just don't get the relevance. A cop busting into my house isn't the same as a cop removing a trespasser from a plane.
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:22 pm to NYNolaguy1
So long United and take Delta with you.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Ticket holder, purchased ticket in advance, is not trespassing by any stretched definition you care to play here.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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just don't get the relevance. A cop busting into my house isn't the same as a cop removing a trespasser from a plane.
If I know I have a legal right to my seat, and that a cop has no legal standing to ask me to move, why should I move? Further, that by voluntarily giving up my seat, I lose my right to further recourse.
Trespassing is ridiculous. Can a tenant be tresspassing by following everything in the lease?
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
It baffles me that folks don't understand the rights of Americans,
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:28 pm to NYNolaguy1
You don't have a legal right to that seat, that was removed when you were selected to not have it
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:28 pm to tigerfoot
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baffles me that folks don't understand the rights of Americans,
Free, but with no rights.
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