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re: United Airlines now has a "headphones" policy.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:35 am to jnethe1
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:35 am to jnethe1
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It’s annoying, but they’re kids so it’s understandable.
My 2 year old was recently throwing a fit including throwing headphones to the ground.
I just let her watch her show at a low volume.
Nobody complained.
Bluey tune is better than endless screaming.
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:38 am to jnethe1
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Or you could put on noise cancelling headphones. Heard of them?
I have. Ever actually worn a pair? They aren’t magic.
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Yep. You’ve removed all logic and are emotionally invested into this. Good day.
No, I’ve maintained a consistent logic all the way through. You’ve simply danced around the core issue, which is that you want to avoid your child having a tantrum at any cost, and anyone who isn’t willing to pay that cost is selfish/illogical/inconsiderate. The reality is that your position is utterly self serving. Instead of simply owning that, you’ve created this absurd fiction in your head in which what you want is the ultimate objective good.
But at the end of the day, this is academic. Maybe I’ll see you on a United flight one day
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:25 am to jnethe1
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Yeah that logic definitely works with babies and toddlers.
So now it's toddlers and babies. I must have missed the babies part but regardless, I'd much rather hear a baby crying (they eventually stop) or a toddler throwing a tantrum (as Joshjrn pointed out they eventually run out of steam) than the beep booping of some video game for hours on end.
quote:Just repeating what the hill you've decided to die on. That's exactly what you're projecting by claiming a child can't be expected to keep their shite together for flights. Well, no shite! That's why it's the parent's responsibility to mentor them on how to do just that!
Wait, the responsibility on the kid. You mean the babies/toddlers?
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who cast hatred and judgement on parents that are trying their best
Obviously the method you are advocating isn't working but your superiority complex doesn't allow you to comprehend that YOU could be the problem here.
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would rather place the burden on babies/toddlers.
And now you're just being disingenuous. No where in this thread has that opinion been inferred.
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That’s great because I’d rather not be around someone who’s incapable of putting on noise canceling headphones
This sentence alone tells me you completely miss the gist of the discussion.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:40 am to PalletJack
They love to do that in waiting rooms. I won’t even talk on the phone in a waiting room with people much less watch TikToks at volume level 100 in a crowded area. They also cannot talk on their phone without it being on speakerphone or FaceTime. It’s as annoying as it is fascinating. I always have an internal debate: are they doing it to annoy the dignified people or do they just not know better?
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:47 am to 3deadtrolls
I’ve run into many “people who annoy” you coming into stores with their speakerphone on music or someone on the other line. But here’s a trend I might not have seen shared..
A youth gets in a semi-long line at gas station and puts his phone to his ear and listens and talks and pretends he is on the phone with someone. But here’s ain’t. Some clown was in front of me at a Chevron last weekend and was talking trying to boost his ego by speaking about what his this and that plans were. Then his phone makes a loud continuous beat sound. He kills it and keeps talking.
To the original point, yeah hell this is needed. Consideration is now an art one must practice as you can’t be born with it.
A youth gets in a semi-long line at gas station and puts his phone to his ear and listens and talks and pretends he is on the phone with someone. But here’s ain’t. Some clown was in front of me at a Chevron last weekend and was talking trying to boost his ego by speaking about what his this and that plans were. Then his phone makes a loud continuous beat sound. He kills it and keeps talking.
To the original point, yeah hell this is needed. Consideration is now an art one must practice as you can’t be born with it.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:41 am to Norbert
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Bluey tune is better than endless screaming.
Be careful. Some on here don’t think highly of parents that choose bluey tunes over tantrums.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:45 am to Joshjrn
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I have. Ever actually worn a pair? They aren’t magic.
Sucks then. But wear them if a kid listening to something like bluey offends you.
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is that your position is utterly self serving.
A child not throwing a tantrum is most certainly not self serving. Quite the opposite in fact. I’ll leave with this. If a parent is allowing their children to listen to an iPad on a plane, I can assure you they are embarrassed by this. They would much prefer the child sit in silence and be entertained sufficiently via available means. Does it mean it isn’t annoying? No. But it is something that the parent has chosen as the lesser of two evils.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:52 am to jnethe1
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Sucks then. But wear them if a kid listening to something like bluey offends you.
Better plan: I’ll wear them and your kid is no longer allowed to listen to devices without headphones on, just like me!
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A child not throwing a tantrum is most certainly not self serving. Quite the opposite in fact. I’ll leave with this. If a parent is allowing their children to listen to an iPad on a plane, I can assure you they are embarrassed by this. They would much prefer the child sit in silence and be entertained sufficiently via available means. Does it mean it isn’t annoying? No. But it is something that the parent has chosen as the lesser of two evils.
If it’s not self serving, why are you objecting so strenuously to us saying we would rather listen to your kid melt down for a bit than to listen to their iPad for the entire flight? Just because you’ve decided it’s the lesser of two evils for you doesn’t mean it’s the lesser of two evils for the rest of us. And no, it’s not your call.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:54 am to SallysHuman
Right. There is nothing civil when it comes to humans. A person can be civil, but as a whole humans are anything but
Posted on 3/7/26 at 10:56 am to Joshjrn
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If it’s not self serving, why are you objecting so strenuously to us saying we would rather listen to your kid melt down for a bit than to listen to their iPad for the entire flight?
No reasonable person would actually come to that conclusion.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:26 am to jnethe1
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So in an airplane your children have been sitting for five hours straight and they begin to get bored and uneasy. You are going to do what? Beat them?
what are you talking about? I said, I have kids, I'm not annoyed at the kids. I'm annoyed at the parents not bringing headphones. I bring my kids headphones.
How did you get child abuse out of that?
Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:31 am to Norbert
not sure why the downvotes. apparently some of them haven’t spent much time around a 2 year old recently. good luck trying to get a 2 year old to sit still for a flight much less wear headphones.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:33 am to evil cockroach
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I’m 100% taking my shoes off when I lay the seat down flat to go to sleep
Why is this guy getting downvotes. They give everyone slippers in business class. Can’t do that with shoes on
Posted on 3/7/26 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
I tell them that I don’t care to listen to their shite and instruct them to turn the speaker off. So far, everyone has complied. Happens more often than I’d like. Maybe…maybe…if more pussies said something instead of just sitting there getting frustrated, people would start self governing.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:02 pm to jnethe1
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No reasonable person would actually come to that conclusion.
As I said:
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You’ve simply danced around the core issue, which is that you want to avoid your child having a tantrum at any cost, and anyone who isn’t willing to pay that cost is selfish/illogical/inconsiderate. The reality is that your position is utterly self serving. Instead of simply owning that, you’ve created this absurd fiction in your head in which what you want is the ultimate objective good.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:05 pm to Klark Kent
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not sure why the downvotes. apparently some of them haven’t spent much time around a 2 year old recently. good luck trying to get a 2 year old to sit still for a flight much less wear headphones.
Yeah it’s not happening
Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:06 pm to Joshjrn
But your argument that it is self serving is not logical given the two options.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:28 pm to jnethe1
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But your argument that it is self serving is not logical given the two options.
Incorrect. If you say that you would rather hear an iPad for hours than hear your kid throw a tantrum, while other people say they would rather hear your kid throw a tantrum than hear an iPad for hours, and your conclusion is that what you want is right and what those other people want is wrong, you’ve deluded yourself into thinking your personal preference is actually the universal good, which is inherently self serving.
Here’s what I think is the actual reality: while you might be mildly embarrassed by your kids playing on their iPad for five hours, you are more embarrassed and more inconvenienced by your kid throwing a tantrum. Therefore, you prefer the iPad noise to the tantrum. The rest of us don’t have to deal with either the embarrassment or your tantrum throwing child, so our analysis is based on the noise alone, both intensity and length. And based on United’s new rule, it sounds like more people would rather the shorter, more intense tantrum than the longer, less intense iPad.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 2:44 pm to evil cockroach
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I’m 100% taking my shoes off when I lay the seat down flat to go to sleep
I’ve always received slippers in my goodie bag when I fly business or first class.
Posted on 3/7/26 at 6:42 pm to jnethe1
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You know nothing about me, nor my children. I am providing real analysis of the described situation. Should these kids be doing that? No. But they’re kids. They’re going to do things that adults don’t consider normal sometimes because they’re kids. What do you expect their parents to do? Beat their kids arse on the plane when their ears start hurting instead of trying to distract them with an iPad?
What isn’t normal, and should not be tolerated, is basketball Americans using the speakers of their phones to broadcast to the rest of us whatever they’re listening to.
He don't need to know nothing bout you, slick. "They're kids" is not an excuse. Ain't never been an excuse. Ain't never gonna be an excuse. Ain't got nothing to do with "normal".
Yeah, they are kids. Which means, their parents should've taught em something about civility. Try it.
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