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Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:27 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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it quite literally is
Not in the day of automation.
Or just close the location(s) attempting to unionize.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:29 am to imjustafatkid
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Outside of DEI positions, this is simply not true.
Evertything has become systemized and with AI improving it will become the norm.
Unless you have some rare skill, you can be pretty easily replaced. We have far less trouble filling professional positions than we do operational positions.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
I did some asset management contract work for starbucks a few years back and I'll say that being in those places for extended periods of time gave me a new appreciation for what they do. They basically have to learn a new language and have to know an infinite amount of drink ingredient combinations and they have to do it on the fly. I'm not saying they're irreplaceable skilled labor, but there's definitely more to it than just filling cups. The employees are all kinda social outcasts/misfits for the most part, but they're almost all pretty nice people.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:36 am to Mo Jeaux
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A significant portion of modern-day corporate America jobs can be done by just about anyone
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:37 am to jnethe1
quote:now you are speaking in hypotheticals
Not in the day of automation.
quote:that is a big problem
Or just close the location(s) attempting to unionize.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:38 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:38 am to TFSUXASS
Starbucks should respond with:
100% drug free workplace
No visible tattoos or piercings
Only natural colored hair
Uniform shirts/pants/hairnets
Zero tolerance late/no-show policy
I know its raciss, sexist, hobophobic, trainsphobic and whatever-phobic...
100% drug free workplace
No visible tattoos or piercings
Only natural colored hair
Uniform shirts/pants/hairnets
Zero tolerance late/no-show policy
I know its raciss, sexist, hobophobic, trainsphobic and whatever-phobic...
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:39 am to imjustafatkid
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They will be. Right now the mommas of the world don't want their kid working a minimum wage job. We'll get over that hump soon.
i mean maybe but why would a high schooler go work Starbucks when they could go lifeguard, babysit or any other less shitty job for comparable or better money. Jobs that are still struggling to find people.
Starbucks offers good enough benefits that are appealing to people over 26, under 26 is still going to be on their parents insurance.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:42 am to Dire Wolf
They also also tuition reimbursement of some kind, so these folks might want to consider that and go get a college degree that is useful.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:44 am to TFSUXASS
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four hours
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workers did not get a chance to share all of their demands with management before Starbucks’ lawyers packed up to leave.
Holy frick, how long was the list of demands?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:46 am to eatpie
quote:they want to make money so that’s probably not a good idea
Starbucks should respond with: 100% drug free workplace No visible tattoos or piercings Only natural colored hair Uniform shirts/pants/hairnets Zero tolerance late/no-show policy I know its raciss, sexist, hobophobic, trainsphobic and whatever-phobic...
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:47 am to Upperdecker
quote:Link?
For as liberal as Starbucks presents itself, they’ve squashed the unionization attempts thus far. Most of the stores to unionize have been nearly immediately closed and all employees laid off and unions not recognized by corporate
They unionized all the one's around Richmond and they still look open (I wouldn't know for sure as I've only been in one like 5 times in my life, I make excellent coffee).
The interwebs say that 200+ have unionized in the past couple of years. Which granted, is a teeny fraction of the 9,000 company owned stores in the US. This article gives actual information on what Starbucks is doing to fight them. Like giving new enhanced benefits only to non-union members.
It's entertaining to me as a year or two ago Bernie Sanders came to town for a Starbucks unionization rally. One of the kids on my team said they were going and I laughed...he got offended. I said, why do baristas need a union, its not like coal miners or pilots?
NPR (hold your nose but no paywall) But shows how to bust unions
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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100% drug free workplace
Emeril's restaurant group tried this crap back in the day. It didn't go well at all and was dropped with the quickness. I think Emeril used to do the nose candy, so he probably understood.
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No visible tattoos or piercings
This is just stupid.
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Only natural colored hair
Very stupid.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 am to upgrayedd
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The employees are all kinda social outcasts/misfits for the most part, but they're almost all pretty nice people.
I agree. But if they want a better standard of living, staying at Starbucks isn't the answer unless you are management.
Entry level employees want leverage but really don't have anything to bargain with. Starbucks will just automate.
Low level employees are competing vs illegals, teenagers, prison parolees...J-1 students.
The J-1 students are 10x more productive than the native population.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:53 am to imjustafatkid
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Outside of DEI positions, this is simply not true.
Nah. I’m sure that you’d like to think that your corporate job entails a great deal of intelligence and talent, but it really doesn’t.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:53 am to Upperdecker
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For as liberal as Starbucks presents itself, they’ve squashed the unionization attempts thus far. Most of the stores to unionize have been nearly immediately closed and all employees laid off and unions not recognized by corporate
Liberals are hypocrites. Who knew?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The J-1 students are 10x more productive than the native population.
Why do you hate Americans so much?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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Why do you hate Americans so much?
Just the lazy ones.
Foreign kids have much better work ethics. You don't have to fire as many.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:59 am to Upperdecker
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For as liberal as Starbucks presents itself, they’ve squashed the unionization attempts thus far. Most of the stores to unionize have been nearly immediately closed and all employees laid off and unions not recognized by corporate
I’m no fan of unions but this isn’t entirely accurate. Hundreds of their stores have voted to be unionized. Some have closed but not many. They positioned themselves as a woke arse liberal company for years and this accumulated a huge number of woke arse loser employees. They are now reaping what they sowed.
Every single Starbucks I go to, which is not that many anymore, have at least one if not several purple haired, nose ring, tatted up “they/them” moving at sloth speed and talking like they are high on something. So yes they are voting to unionize and trying to turn this into a career gig because no one else would hire them. And that’s in the south. I can’t imagine what their liberal la-la land stores look like.
About the only thing that will save Starbucks from being another company murdered by the union leeches is if a Republican becomes president and gets the NLRB off their arse. Until then they will be in a struggle to survive. Their prices are already stupid high for coffee drinks. If they cave to this mess their business model won’t be sustainable. People aren’t going to pay $10 for a coffee drink and a microwave muffin plus 20% tip.
TLDR: They are getting exactly what they deserve.
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