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re: Uncovering Poor Workmanship in Your Home

Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:59 pm to
Recently did a bathroom remodel. House was built in 81. Master bath and the main bathroom are next to each other and the sinks tie in to common drain. When we pulled the vanity and sink we found the tie-in was a 3/4" water hose secured with hose clamps and tar. I've owned the home for 15 years and I have no idea how long ago that was done but it worked so well I was almost afraid to change it
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:01 pm to
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I had them fricking remove the trash from a worker's lunch that would have been entombed.


I occasionally come across empty drink bottles that my builder's guys left in the crawlspace and in the woods outside the house. It is frustrating.
Posted by j bro12
LA
Member since Jan 2012
1550 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:09 pm to
House was built in 2014. The jackass contractor:

1) Forgot to run power to my kitchen island. They busted up my slab to run conduit and did a shifty patch up job.

2) Tiled my entire kitchen and bathrooms with the wrong tile.

3) Used half rotten wood for columns on my back porch.

4) Poured my driveway and sidewalks right before a massive rainstorm.

5) Didn’t properly fasten the drawer doors in the kitchen (most of them fell off).
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
852 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:15 pm to
Did you alert the church elders?

This made me spit water and pee a little....not really sure why....
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46739 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:19 pm to
Ya, but there's a reason...

Story time!

Bought the house from a guy who took a 1940s bungalow and gutted it down to the joists and rafters. All new plumbing and electrical. Added on a 1600 sqft addition that added an upstairs room, additional bedroom, and huge master bed and bath. Dad was the GC. Dumps serious money in to this house. $4k range, $2500 vented commercial hood, 3/4in oak flooring, custom molding around all the windows and doors, custom cabinetry, etc.

Then he gets busted with his side chick, gets divorced, gets taken to the cleaners by the ex. Takes out several loans from friends and family to finish the house. During closing he had SEVEN different loans the money was going to.

Long story short, great build quality everywhere and I got the house for a steal. But you can also tell where he rushed to finish. Painting is bad in several rooms, shitty spackle job in places, recessed ceiling lights not in flush, some floor molding missing, etc. Nothing major...just annoying shite the fiance and I have been fixing over the past year.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
798 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:24 pm to
Had a leak in the attic above my second story coming from a crack in a stucco parapet wall above it. When they demoed the wall, we found that there was no weatherproofing under the stucco... just plywood. Also had a leak in a sided extension on my master bedroom that we decided to stucco at the same time. When they removed the siding... same issue... no weatherproofing, just plywood. There are many many more issues but these were two of the bigger wtf items I can think of right now.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3883 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:27 pm to
Moved into our house last September. The outside vinyl on the back patio seems to be pretty shotty work. I think the previous owner did it himself.

While I was in college, our rent house attic had crisscrossed exposed wires and certain outlets would only work when certain other light switches were turned on in other rooms. I was pretty sure we were going to end up with an electrical fire at some point. Luckily we never did
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9256 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:29 pm to
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The drain for the shower had never been hooked up. It was dumping straight on the ground.




"Man, this shower never clogs!"
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Reve built.


Go on.

Curious because my buddy bought a house of his and he’s pretty satisfied with it thus far. I was even looking into lots he has in the new development of Ashton and maybe letting him build for me.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59352 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:44 pm to
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The drain for the shower had never been hooked up. It was dumping straight on the ground.


Had this happen to a friend except it was the master bathtub. One of those big ones with the jets. First week in the new house he goes to take a bath and it drains into the kitchen ceiling. By the time the water started pouring through most of the full tub had flowed out. It was a huge pain in the arse for them

Another time I was helping a friend guy his house after the flood. Apparently whoever built the house didn’t feel like carrying broken bricks to the dumpster so they just mixed them with concrete to make these brick balls between the walls. It was really strange
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60184 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:46 pm to
Glad I bought a dsld so I never have to worry about this
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60282 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:51 pm to
The wife and I bought our house in late 2014. She noted that the master bath had been remodeled and wanted to redo it at some point. Some previous owner (the one we bought it from, we suspect) had put up sheet rock and tiled it 3/4 the way up. The grout wasn't sealed well but it wasn't anything major.

Looking at the wall from outside you could see where a large window had been but had since been covered by some decorative wooden thingy.

Flash-forward to the aftermath of the flood of 2016. We are demoing that master bath and find that it wasn't sheet rock but just tile board that had been placed against some 2x4's nailed to the frame (one was only nailed in the top, it didn't quite reach the frame on the foundation so you could just pull it down with a little effort). We also found the window still completely intact in its frame, covered on the inside by nothing more than styrofoam. The brackets for the blinds they had there were still in place.

And then we found out why all this shoddy work was done. At some point water had leaked through that big ol' window frame and rotted every bit of wood from halfway up the wall all the way down to the foundation. The wood was so rotted that you could thump it with your fingers and chunks would fly off.

We had to have not just the whole bottom half of the wall rebuilt, but a whole new window put in as well (original to the house, 1983 build so it was an old aluminum frame and single-paned glass). In that respect the flood was a bit of a blessing because otherwise we might not have found out about the issue until it sagged and/or collapsed.

Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68250 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:53 pm to
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It's like the contractor ran out of concrete, remembered watching The Ten Commandments, and started adding straw, mud, rocks, etc to fill out the bench.


Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:55 pm to
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My house was built in the late 1940's, beautiful framing and 1.5" thick oak flooring. Nothing made in the last 30 years is that good. The quality of lumber then vs now is not even close. Some of the electrical "upgrades" have obviously been done by somebody not knowing or caring about what they were doing though. Same with some of the plumbing. All stuff I can fix myself though.


I have owned several homes built in the 1930s and 40s, the construction and general woodwork was impeccable. Things like where the exterior siding meets the window framing, the fit was flawless, those guys didn't use caulk to fill up cracks, when they made a cut it fit, and it was all done with a handsaw. House I am in know was built in the 80s, hardly anywhere I can look and now find something that should have ben done better.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:55 pm to
no way to tell whats good or bad because they all use sub contractors.

i used to put in a/c systems for a large realtor and some contractors were great, some were worse then what you expect from a bunch of mexicans with rental tools you pick up at lowes or home depot.

one house with 9 ft walls in the living room they added 12" to a regular 8ft standard wall. looked ok, until i sat on it to take a break. ever 16" they had short blocks to create the extra 12" and when i sat on the top plate about 3 of these filer blocks simply fell over. THEY WERENT EVEN FRICKING NAILED IN.

told the realter and showed it to him and we both laughed then i went on my way, dont even know if they ever fixed it. this realtor had a habit of never putting insulation around fireplace areas so every wall in closets, bathrooms, and even bedroom walls were ice cold in winter and warm in summer because they were open to attic air 24/7. they also had a habit of rushing the plumbing in before the insulators got there so some 70% of the houses had no insulation behind shower units which in most cases coincided with where the a/c units were so it sounded like a damn window a/c unit running in the bedroom every time it came on.

never assume a single problem is just that, you should always assume many short cuts were taken on every house and if you ever get a chance to do any work be sure to go the extra amount to be sure things are done right and never assume price, location, or looks mean anything as far as what might be hidden behind the walls.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12437 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:58 pm to
I just remodeled my bathroom and found out that my tub/surround was an inch out of level over the tub with plumb walls. Putting in the new one I had to really do a lot of work to get it to sit right and the surround to sit right. Had I wanted to keep the house and tile the walls it wouldn't have been a big deal as the floor was falling to the drain.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10224 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:58 pm to
Tons and tons of call backs. Sheetrock work was/is terrible. Electrical is up to code but no where near what you pay for.

Really a lot to get into on here and I'm using a phone.

Unless you stay on them literally every day you will find shortcuts months or even years after.

The houses look good at a glance but are really shoddy when you look.

They are building houses so quickly that the crews are being spread thin and if you don't get that 'A' crew expect to call them back over and over and over and over.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:00 pm to
I bought a house in TX that was roughly 2 years old when we purchased. Looked really nice. Since then, we realized how cheaply houses are put together here. I'm fairly certain 10% of our molding is actually caulk. Looks fine when painted initially, but slowly dries out and pulls away showing how shitty it was done.

We also had cracked shower which required extensive repair. Well, we got a crack in the same spot over the last few days. Seems it's just a poor design. cold air in the open space around the garden tub and hot water from the shower hitting it leads to cracks. I am just using grout caulk instead of trying to redo it again.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
38336 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:03 pm to
I can't believe you people don't all live in houses with granite countertops in the kitchen, stainless steel appliances, and fully updated kitchens and bathrooms.



At least that's how they roll on House Hunters....
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:04 pm to
This kind of shite is my biggest fear as a first time home buyer. I'm not a construction guy and I wouldn't know what to even look for.

How much do Home Inspectors cost these days and do they do a good job?
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