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re: Uncovering Poor Workmanship in Your Home
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:06 pm to LSUfan20005
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:06 pm to LSUfan20005
A/C leaked and destroyed the bathroom below it, and my guy that came to fix said these words... "How did this pass inspection?"
How the frick should I know, dude?
How the frick should I know, dude?
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:06 pm to dupergreenie
Owned a house once that was built in the 40's. Structurally sound as shite, I mean this thing was like a fortress in terms of framing and roofing. But one prior owner would just add walls on top of walls and floors on top of floors. He also added wood-based acoustic paneling in between layers of sheet rock.
In the kitchen alone, gutted it and gained almost a foot in width from the multiple layers of sheet rock, acoustic paneling, and plywood (wtf); six inches down in flooring because it wasfour layers of linoleum tile and plywood over the original wood floors. Also gained TWO FEET in ceiling height because there was a false ceiling installed.
Due to old blown insulation, couldn't tell how bad electrical was and the home inspector was a lazy POS. Sucked up all of the insulation to reveal an electrical nightmare. Junction boxes open with exposed wiring, some connections made with just caps and no junctions, hot wires going nowhere, just a fricking mess. Luckily decided to do a complete gut job so it was all updated, but the old electrical was a disaster.
At the end of the day, I'd much rather have my money in a place that is structurally sound and have to update plumbing and/or electrical than the reverse.
In the kitchen alone, gutted it and gained almost a foot in width from the multiple layers of sheet rock, acoustic paneling, and plywood (wtf); six inches down in flooring because it wasfour layers of linoleum tile and plywood over the original wood floors. Also gained TWO FEET in ceiling height because there was a false ceiling installed.
Due to old blown insulation, couldn't tell how bad electrical was and the home inspector was a lazy POS. Sucked up all of the insulation to reveal an electrical nightmare. Junction boxes open with exposed wiring, some connections made with just caps and no junctions, hot wires going nowhere, just a fricking mess. Luckily decided to do a complete gut job so it was all updated, but the old electrical was a disaster.
At the end of the day, I'd much rather have my money in a place that is structurally sound and have to update plumbing and/or electrical than the reverse.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:07 pm to dupergreenie
Yea I don’t have the time to stay on them daily but had planned to hire a separate GC (close friend and great homebuilder but too much work and he’s expensive) to oversee the build. Would you think that would overcome any shortfalls?
Also for those in construction, is that a slap in the face to hire a separate person to oversee the work being done? He’s meticulous so I would guess he’s going to point out even the smallest flaws.
By meticulous I mean he fretted over a grout line on a remodel for me because all the others were 1/16 and the edges/corner would be 1/8. Also saw him climb to the roof and ask a guy what the hell he was doing (beating a piece of plywood down to fit. The guy said “it’s just a house” and he fired him on the spot. I watch him cut 1/8 off of framing because it isn’t perfect.
Also for those in construction, is that a slap in the face to hire a separate person to oversee the work being done? He’s meticulous so I would guess he’s going to point out even the smallest flaws.
By meticulous I mean he fretted over a grout line on a remodel for me because all the others were 1/16 and the edges/corner would be 1/8. Also saw him climb to the roof and ask a guy what the hell he was doing (beating a piece of plywood down to fit. The guy said “it’s just a house” and he fired him on the spot. I watch him cut 1/8 off of framing because it isn’t perfect.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:08 pm to Supravol22
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"How did this pass inspection?"
Learned my lesson the first time, home inspectors aren't worth dick. Now I just pay a builder I know to spend a day going through the entire house and making a list of everything that is done wrong.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:16 pm to Clames
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My house was built in the late 1940's, beautiful framing and 1.5" thick oak flooring. Nothing made in the last 30 years is that good. The quality of lumber then vs now is not even close.
My house was built in early 1900's as a two story duplex. We renovated a year ago to a single, 90% of the original cypress flooring is still in tact, only had to change out a few random ones throughout the house. A few of the new planks are starting to slide and even cracking in some areas, I question if they are even cypress and not pine. I'm currently in a lawsuit with the GC and holding a final payment until a bunch of issues are fixed.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:17 pm to LSUfan20005
House built in 2006. I’ve found quite a few and one last week
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:18 pm to TexasTiger89
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hot water heater

Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:19 pm to Tiny Rick
Look.... frick a contractor that would take offense to that. He is working for you. If he has a good crew he won't be told anything right?
That's what I had to finally tell the owner of the company and his brain fart of a first lieutenant.... (my main mistake was letting my wife deal with it from the beginning but I thought she was anal enough to stay on top of it).
Even to the end of the build when we went to sign papers and get the keys the owner of the company was acting unprofessional and a total arse to the bank people saying he would refuse to pay more than 60 dollars for some paper work. Luckily it had nothing to do with us getting into the house....
That's what I had to finally tell the owner of the company and his brain fart of a first lieutenant.... (my main mistake was letting my wife deal with it from the beginning but I thought she was anal enough to stay on top of it).
Even to the end of the build when we went to sign papers and get the keys the owner of the company was acting unprofessional and a total arse to the bank people saying he would refuse to pay more than 60 dollars for some paper work. Luckily it had nothing to do with us getting into the house....
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:22 pm to LSUfan20005
I have multiple light switches that are set as 3 per panel but the middle one is not attached to anything. Took off the panel to look. Unfortunately, they cut the dry wall hole to fit a 3 switch set up... SO I have to leave a blank switch. I also have multiple that are not synched... i.e. one switch is on when flipped up but the switch next to it is off when switched up. These are to outdoor fixtures. Easy fix for those though.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:25 pm to Damone
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Learned my lesson the first time, home inspectors aren't worth dick. Now I just pay a builder I know to spend a day going through the entire house and making a list of everything that is done wrong
Yep, it was my first house... never again.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:38 pm to dupergreenie
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Pretty much the entire house Reve built.
And Randy Noel, the owner of Reve, was just elected Chairman of the National Association of Homebuilders.
Him and his father before him are known as building cheap houses.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:38 pm to YoungManOldMan
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How much do Home Inspectors cost these days and do they do a good job?
I'm sure there's plenty of good ones, but my limited experience tells me that most home inspectors are "yes men" hired to move the process along. I suspect they sometimes know the realtors and get a cut.
For my next home, I'm going to hire the inspector, but then have him audited by a builder/expert I trust.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:41 pm to doublecutter
Randy that's the jack off... during a walk through I asked him if he would allow this in his home.... he said no... I asked him why should I.
I literally wanted to fight that man.
I literally wanted to fight that man.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:44 pm to LSUfan20005
Yeah house we bought had a back patio that was covered... Was all nice till 8 months later we notice a water spot on the ceiling. I pull down and they have installation that has obviously been absorbing water for awhile.
Paid a guy to replace the whole roof, he did such a shitty job that 2 years later it is leaking again.
Also, found out that when they did the back patio, they laid the concrete on a previous driveway with a slant. They did not break up the previous concrete nor did they strengthen it, just laid new concrete on top which has now led to shifting. It is going to cost me 12k to replace because the entire back patio needs to be torn down to fix it cause.
Paid a guy to replace the whole roof, he did such a shitty job that 2 years later it is leaking again.
Also, found out that when they did the back patio, they laid the concrete on a previous driveway with a slant. They did not break up the previous concrete nor did they strengthen it, just laid new concrete on top which has now led to shifting. It is going to cost me 12k to replace because the entire back patio needs to be torn down to fix it cause.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:46 pm to LSUfan20005
quote:too many to list. Everytime I get in the attic I am amazed the roof doesnt just slide off.
Curious if anyone else has any good stories.
That and the plumbing and wiring seem to be put in by colorblind, dyslexic, Mexican truck drivers. Every time I have someone out to fix something they spend about 30 minutes explaining that they have never really encountered anything like it....."you know, we generally dont see it done like this"
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:47 pm to Jobu93
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Not me, but I know of a worker that took a giant shite in a tub of a home that was being built
Common practice for apartment units and condos construction sites - disgusting
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:49 pm to White Bear
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How was the old heater larger than the new? I recently replaced my primary water heater, if not for full-size door attic access I would've had to remove attic fold-up staircase (from garage). New heater is 26" dia. and a heavy bitch
I had to downsize from a 50 gallon to a 40 gallon to fit up stairs. Guess I should of included that little fact.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:49 pm to LSUGrad9295
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At least that's how they roll on House Hunters....
Husband earns $9 an hour as a holistic therapist
Wife is a stay at home mom with no kids.
House Budget: $975,000
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:49 pm to LSUfan20005
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How much do Home Inspectors cost these days and do they do a good job?
They are a joke. Mine obviously didnt care about the structural integrity, functionality or safety of the home. He did how ever write up that a brick was missing from a makeshift brick patio the prior owners had thrown together.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:51 pm to Supravol22
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A/C leaked and destroyed the bathroom below it, and my guy that came to fix said these words... "How did this pass inspection?"
Friend of mine had their a/c break. A/C guy comes out and looks at the system in the attic, blower or whatever it's called. Guy basically says, WTF is this crap? Apparently wasn't even close to code. Guy calls his boss to come take a look at it. Boss takes pictures and says he will use them as training for his staff in the "what not to do" section of the training manual.
A/C guy actually felt bad for them and offered to do the needed repair for regular cost, and re-wiring the F ups for free.
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